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Trump is setting up the withdrawal of US presence in Europe.

Posted on 4/30/26 at 4:05 pm
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 4/30/26 at 4:05 pm
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Author Steven Lake
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Yeah, this lines up perfectly with all the ammo shipments that have been moving out of Europe since just before, and during, Epic Fury. That means my theory about the attack on Iran being used secondarily as an excuse to remove all our stuff from Europe seems to be lining up perfectly.

IE, attack Iran (which we were gonna do anyways) and then use that as an excuse to move all our most important, sensitive, and mission critical stuff out of the EU, then close our bases once everything is clear.

It sounds to me like almost everything that has to go and can't be left behind has been moved, and what remains is things that, if all else fails, we can abandon in place with no real hit to us. That's some 5D chess right there, and the globalists, as well as our enemies, never saw it coming. :)
Posted by BarnHater
Member since May 2015
8778 posts
Posted on 4/30/26 at 4:07 pm to
Good. We aren’t the world’s police.

Another brilliant move by DJT.
Posted by Sus-Scrofa
Member since Feb 2013
11075 posts
Posted on 4/30/26 at 4:07 pm to
Don’t even leave an office desk behind. If it’s of value and for some reason we don’t take it with us, put it in a pile and burn it.
Posted by Mike da Tigah
Bravo Romeo Lima Alpha
Member since Feb 2005
61834 posts
Posted on 4/30/26 at 4:10 pm to
I’ve long felt how unjust it was that Europe didn’t have to fund a military of any significance, which in turn allowed them to provide massive social programs like health care, and all at the cost to American citizens who paid for their defense, plus financial aid on top of it all.

Great news. Let Europe fight Europe’s battles since they apparently feel no need to support them who have protected them for some 100 plus years.
Posted by TankBoys32
Member since Mar 2019
4228 posts
Posted on 4/30/26 at 4:12 pm to
Withdraw our military from anywhere but the homeland and our territories
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
16482 posts
Posted on 4/30/26 at 4:16 pm to
Take our Tridents back from the UK also.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
35539 posts
Posted on 4/30/26 at 4:19 pm to
Good. They are able to fund their social welfare programs by skimping on defense, because they have us as a backstop.
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
8447 posts
Posted on 4/30/26 at 4:20 pm to
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Good. They are able to fund their social welfare programs by skimping on defense, because they have us as a backstop.


Muz have taken over there anyway...time to cut them off.
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
8447 posts
Posted on 4/30/26 at 4:23 pm to
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Good. We aren’t the world’s police.

Another brilliant move by DJT


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Posted by Laugh More
Member since Jan 2022
3951 posts
Posted on 4/30/26 at 4:24 pm to
I could be off, but this kind of thing signals to me that we don’t feel any threat by NOT having “any” presence over there.

Seems to me like we know more and have more control over things than are let on (which is always the case.)

I could be wrong, but we shall see.
Posted by The1TrueTiger
Colorado Springs, Colorado
Member since Apr 2009
2677 posts
Posted on 4/30/26 at 4:25 pm to
Bad idea, one of the incentives to joing the military is serving over seas, getting to travel and see the world, now we will have to cram all of our enlisted onto US located bases causing over crowding and other problems. Plus what will be the cost of such a move.
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
8447 posts
Posted on 4/30/26 at 4:25 pm to
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Withdraw our military from anywhere but the homeland and our territories


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Hear me out.

Trump called out Germany, South Korea, and Japan, for not willing to help with the Strait of Hormuz. What do these nations have in common? They are where we have the largest standing military presence outside the US.

I think Trump is not just setting up a withdrawal from NATO, I think he is setting up a withdrawal of our military presence around the globe, and will eventually begin the process of consolidating US MIL presence to the Western Hemisphere, once we are done with Iran and the war in Ukraine is over.

I think the end goal is normalized relations with Russia and China, and thus the permanent end to the Cold War that never really ended. This is only possible by removing US military presence off of China and Russia’s doorstep, as well as ending Russian/Chinese meddling in our hemisphere, via places like Venezuela and Cuba, which is already happening.

What if the US, Russia, and China, just agreed to stop the espionage, weapons of mass destruction, proxy wars, and meddling in each other’s regions? What if the superpowers were on the same side instead of against each other?

It’s possible, and things seem to be inching in that direction. Russia and China are losing their influence in the Western Hemisphere, and Trump is posturing like he is going to remove our presence in the Eastern Hemisphere.

I think we are witnessing a restructure of the global order, and the global “alliances” as we know them are about to shift dramatically.
Posted by VOR
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2009
68831 posts
Posted on 4/30/26 at 4:27 pm to
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Withdraw our military from anywhere but the homeland and our territories


That's not practical or smart from a strategic standpoint..

It's highly doubtful that we withdraw completely from Europe.

Many of you have been bamboozled and brainwashed regarding the Atlantiv Alliance...
Posted by theballguy
HSV (Dealing only in satire)
Member since Oct 2011
37278 posts
Posted on 4/30/26 at 4:28 pm to
Would be nice but it ain't happening.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139019 posts
Posted on 4/30/26 at 4:29 pm to
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The world is being reset.
... and the world still has not caught on.
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
10105 posts
Posted on 4/30/26 at 4:30 pm to
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Trump is setting up the withdrawal of US presence in Europe. He is also considering pulling troops out of Spain and Italy, in addition to Germany, and rips Europe.


This seems seriously Islamophobic. Maybe it’s just me.
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
5327 posts
Posted on 4/30/26 at 4:31 pm to
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The EU’s plan was to give Ukraine NATO membership, as a means to drag the US into direct war with Russia.

They tried to get the US and Russia to destroy each other, so they could rule over the ashes.


This is not an implausible scenario, but ruling over the ashes wouldn't be the goal. The goal would be securing Russia's energy deposits for Europe. Without energy security, the EU is facing a bleak future. The problem is that if Russia became unable to defend its territory, China would beat Europe to the punch.
This post was edited on 4/30/26 at 4:35 pm
Posted by SludgeFactory
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Jun 2025
3859 posts
Posted on 4/30/26 at 4:33 pm to
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Bad idea, one of the incentives to joing the military is serving over seas, getting to travel and see the world, now we will have to cram all of our enlisted onto US located bases causing over crowding and other problems. Plus what will be the cost of such a move.



:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46171 posts
Posted on 4/30/26 at 4:40 pm to
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Many of you have been bamboozled and brainwashed regarding the Atlantiv Alliance...


Oh this should be fun. Please sir, lay it all out in the open for us rubes.

Posted by The1TrueTiger
Colorado Springs, Colorado
Member since Apr 2009
2677 posts
Posted on 4/30/26 at 4:41 pm to
Oh look a non thinker.
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