re: Trump appoints leading vaccine skeptic as head of vaccine safety panel

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Again, that does not appear to be accurate. What you are correctly pointing out though is reported rates of 4-in-10000 in 1960 vs 1-in-68 now are apples and oranges comparisons.

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Myopia was not diagnosed nearly as much 300 years ago those rates have not really increased. People were diagnosed much more as witches hundreds of years ago. They're not now., The rates remain stable . An increase in the identification of a disorder including autism level or severity does not mean the disorder has actually increased .

Actual autism has not increased, only the identification of it. It really is that simple in this case . By the way, there is no such thing as level four autism. I am not sure where you got that.

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Now the left is trashing the Kennedys?

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I'd trash anyone that believes like Trump on this issue.

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That said, I don't like the way vaccine skepticism is treated.
I get why people are unsure about giving babies all of these shots and think it's dehumanizing the way people respond to anti-vaccination parents.

A stern response to what you perceive to be a public health threat (if you are qualified and informed to make that judgment) is fine, but I believe the response is usually overboard and does more to entrench the feelings of distrust in the skeptic than to change their mind.

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I pretty much agree with this.

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Myopia was not diagnosed nearly as much 300 years ago those rates have not really increased. People were diagnosed much more as witches hundreds of years ago. They're not now., The rates remain stable . An increase in the identification of a disorder including autism level or severity does not mean the disorder has actually increased

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Repeating your point does not make it more factual. Autism based on Kanner criterion has increased >300% over the past fifty years in every study I am aware of. There seems to be a real increase based on consistent criterion.

What you are saying is the increase has not increased >3000%, from 1-in-2500 to 1-in-68.

One is not independent of the other.

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Seems like a personal/family problem.

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Kind of like per-existing conditions or lack of insurance.

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That said, I don't like the way vaccine skepticism is treated.
I get why people are unsure about giving babies all of these shots and think it's dehumanizing the way people respond to anti-vaccination parents.

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Dozens of people die every year who would not be dead had a parent somewhere not been a vaccine skeptic.

There is no response that is too stern.

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ow do we know this? That is a simple question that should have an easy answer.

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Of course that cant be scientifically proven. That does not make it inaccurate. It's almost like asking prove that Santa Claus does not exist .

With that being said we do know that over the past 10-15 years more adults are being diagnosed that were not diagnosed in childhood. Those same people would have never been diagnosed 30 and 40 years ago. , even though they had the symptoms. . In fact 50-year-olds are diagnosed more and through a detailed history we know that the symptoms were present in toddlerhood 40 and 50 years ago . And by definition autism begins in childhood, very early childhood, as in infancy or toddlerhood . So it's not suddenly appearing when someone is 20, 30, or even 40 and 50 years old .

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Dozens of people die every year who would not be dead had a parent somewhere not been a vaccine skeptic.

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hundreds and maybe even thousands of people die from reactions to antibiotics each year

olddog26, I tried the nice way here for a week and only got disrespect...lol...now, I just tell it like it is...it's the snowflakes that are arrogant...there was once a philosopher that said that the worst combo in the world is' ignorance pus arrogance"...I try to walk the high road but sometimes the world doesn't respect meekness or kindness...such is the human condition...

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Repeating your point does not make it more factual. Autism based on Kanner criterion has increased >300% over the past fifty years in every study I am aware of. There seems to be a real increase based on consistent criterion. What you are saying is the increase has not increased >3000%, from 1-in-2500 to 1-in-68.

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That is not what I'm saying at all. Yes, there is a real increase in the "diagnosis" of it even based on the consistent criteria. I am not arguing against that at all . What I am saying is that even though there is an increase in the diagnosis of it does not mean that The rate of the symptoms in people, meaning the actual disorder has increased . Those people simply weren't identified 40 and 50 years ago . Like I said in another post, those people from decades ago would be easily identified today by better trained and equipped pediatricians, teachers, positions, psychiatrist, psychologist, etc. if they presented with the same symptoms at the age of two, three, four, five, etc. . Today it is the recommendation from the American Academy of pediatrics that every single child be at least a screenwd for autism during a wellness visit.