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re: Trump / Sanders electoral map with tossup states
Posted on 2/24/20 at 5:50 am to _Hurricane_
Posted on 2/24/20 at 5:50 am to _Hurricane_
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I think people are underrating just how much moderate Dems don’t want a socialist president.
that's yet to be seen.
It's not just the leadership of the left that is filth.
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Posted on 2/24/20 at 5:52 am to Rex Feral
Well isn’t that convenient
Posted on 2/24/20 at 5:56 am to SirWinston
New Jersey is in play
Posted on 2/24/20 at 6:02 am to Roaad
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NM, ME, and CO are not tossups.
If Bernie is the nominee they are all in play.
Posted on 2/24/20 at 6:19 am to SirWinston
I need to bet some money on Trump to win this thing.
I think Trump is an embarrassment to the United States in the way he behaves. I think he brings out some of the worst in America. I also would laugh my arse off at the melt by the folks here and on social media who are fanatically supportive of him and love to suck him off at southern sporting events, pop balloons, etc., if he were to lose.
And in spite of all that, I still would vote for Trump over Sanders.
I think Trump is an embarrassment to the United States in the way he behaves. I think he brings out some of the worst in America. I also would laugh my arse off at the melt by the folks here and on social media who are fanatically supportive of him and love to suck him off at southern sporting events, pop balloons, etc., if he were to lose.
And in spite of all that, I still would vote for Trump over Sanders.
Posted on 2/24/20 at 6:22 am to SlickRick55
quote:
the whole Democratic party (and voters) as a bunch of idiots
Trump never says anything negative about Dem voters as a group. His attacks are always aimed at the Dem leadership or at individuals.
Posted on 2/24/20 at 6:24 am to Globetrotter747
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think Trump is an embarrassment to the United States in the way he behaves.
Example? I love it, it's the only way to deal with a hostile media controlled by international high finance, the CIA etc. That has openly shite on, lied about, and pushed 100% anti American propaganda for generations now, what country are you particularly worried about in how they think of us? They are mostly cuck rats who have drained and cheated the United States and relied on us for protection as they wage war on their own citizens and import third world dregs. Wake up man
Posted on 2/24/20 at 6:27 am to SirWinston
PA and MI coming up Trump. Book it! 
Posted on 2/24/20 at 6:28 am to Globetrotter747
quote:
think Trump is an embarrassment to the United States in the way he behaves.
You've got him confused with Barack "Leading From Behind" Obama.
Posted on 2/24/20 at 6:33 am to Clames
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Union guys hate Bernie despite what their leaders say.
Agree 100%. I live near the GM plant in Spring Hill, TN. All the union guys on the line during the strike last fall put the blame for the strike firmly on the shoulders of Mary Barra, an Obama lap dog. I don't recall ANY of them saying they would vote against Trump.
Posted on 2/24/20 at 6:34 am to Volsfan82169
Because they won’t. They like making money and like working. Sanders wants them to not do either of those things based on his policies and politics
Posted on 2/24/20 at 7:29 am to SirWinston
That's the map for Trump vs any dem. I think Trump gets NH this time and keeps that ev from Maine at least.
Posted on 2/24/20 at 7:33 am to Texas Yarddog
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If Bernie is the Democrat bucking for POTUS, I see something closer to Reagan/Mondale for the map.
Bernie may get one or two states, but that's about it.
I believe this as well
Posted on 2/24/20 at 7:35 am to SirWinston
Another interesting aspect of a Trump/Sanders matchup is that I bet you will see the highest divergence ever between the voting patterns of rural and urban areas. While, you look back at the 1980's for example, and the gap wasn't near as large.
Posted on 2/24/20 at 7:42 am to SirWinston
WI is not going vote for Bernie.
I actually doubt MN would, either, but less certain.
I actually doubt MN would, either, but less certain.
Posted on 2/24/20 at 7:58 am to SirWinston
If Bernie is the nominee, PA, MI, and WI are more pink than a toss-up.
VA is likely blue regardless of who the dim nominee is, the urban areas around DC are too infected with TDS and living inside that bubble.
The thing strategists for the dims have to ask is how are they going to convince people in PA, MI, and WI that voted Trump last time can be convinced that vote was a mistake.
Turn out in Michigan was 63% during 2016 flat from 2012 and down just a smidge from 2009 (66.2%). With the marked improvement in the economy I just don't see voters in MI (or PA and WI) voting for a change, let alone a huge change like Trump to Sanders.
VA is likely blue regardless of who the dim nominee is, the urban areas around DC are too infected with TDS and living inside that bubble.
The thing strategists for the dims have to ask is how are they going to convince people in PA, MI, and WI that voted Trump last time can be convinced that vote was a mistake.
Turn out in Michigan was 63% during 2016 flat from 2012 and down just a smidge from 2009 (66.2%). With the marked improvement in the economy I just don't see voters in MI (or PA and WI) voting for a change, let alone a huge change like Trump to Sanders.
Posted on 2/24/20 at 8:16 am to SirWinston
Virginia is not a tossup. It might never go red again
Posted on 2/24/20 at 8:17 am to _Hurricane_
quote:I'm not sure if I buy this
I think people are underrating just how much moderate Dems don’t want a socialist president
Posted on 2/24/20 at 8:19 am to SirWinston
You heard it hear first........
NJ is in play if Sanders gets the nod
NJ is in play if Sanders gets the nod
Posted on 2/24/20 at 8:21 am to YankeeBama
Why is NJ in play of Sanders gets the nod? Pharmaceutical industry?
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