re: Trump / Sanders electoral map with tossup states

One thing people seem to be missing is that a huge number of Democrats do well because they blatantly LIE about their agenda. 60-65% of Americans are NOT on board for the Bernie agenda, even "moderate" Democrats, but when an Obama or Hillary run for office they don't talk about taking everyone's guns, destroying the health care system as it exists today, love for all things Communist, etc. Bernie does. He is a true believer, and over the course of 4 or 5 months of general election campaigning I can guaran-damn-tee he is going to say a lot of shite that will scare the hell out of your average soccer mom/boomer retiree. Because he isn't scared to say what the Democrats REALLY want.

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I think Virginia is actually purple but had a fluke voting season.

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I’m not saying Trump can’t carry Virginia but a 3peat isn’t a fluke. It’s a trend.


Virginia Recent Presidential Elections:

2016
Dem: 49.8% Rep: 44.4%

2012
Dem: 51.2% Rep: 47.3%

2008
Dem: 52.6% Rep: 46.3%

2004
Dem: 45.6% Rep: 53.8%

2000
Dem: 44.4% Rep: 52.5%


Voting History For Virginia:
1972: R
1976: R
1980: R
1984: R
1988: R
1992: R
1996: R
2000: R
2004: R
2008: D
2012: D
2016: D

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The name calling is super petty I just think the actual body of work he's done far outweighs his behavior.

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Democrats take trumps words seriously, but not his intentions and actions.

Republicans don’t take his exact words seriously, but do for his intentions and actions.

Maps is pretty good, but very optimistic to call New Mexico, Colorado, Nevada and Virginia toss up states. They are now solid blue. Bernie will win those states easily.

It’s likely that Minnesota will go his way and I wouldn’t be surprised if PA went blue again. Lots of people struggling in PA that’ll go for “free stuff”.

The Reagan / Mondale map just isn’t a possibility today; too many hard blue states for that. The establishment left may not like Bernie, but a lot of the people on the left are ready for Socialism, or at least the bullshite “Nordic” vision of it rattling around their heads.

Bernie will be well funded and dangerous. In more ways than just the election.

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I really want to believe that most democrats would reject socialism more than what this map shows.

Even if they stay home.

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You would hope; but people today aren't afraid of socialism. Younger people even view it favorably; they've never really lived through seeing what it really looks like.

The fall of communism is a relic of the past. Other than a few spots here and there, like Venezuela, which the media has repressed, it all been moonbeams and sunshine selling the idea of how great things are in the nordic countries. Which oddly enough, have all been rolling back those policies because they can't keep up with the costs.

I don't see The Bern winning MN. Trump was only down 1.5% to Clinton.

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Doubt it.

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DE does NOT like Bernie.

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I think people are underrating just how much moderate Dems don’t want a socialist president.

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If you are right, and the mainstream Dems stay home, this could be a huge night for down ballot for Republicans.

We'll know if the Democrats start fundraising hard for congressional candidates in the last couple of months. If their message is to "get out and vote, even if you don't like either Presidential candidate".

I dont think that goes in effect until a certain number of states jump on board