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re: Thoughts on kids and school lunches

Posted on 12/2/19 at 6:41 pm to
Posted by Bedhog
Denham Springs
Member since Apr 2019
3741 posts
Posted on 12/2/19 at 6:41 pm to
Hot take there buddy.
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 12/2/19 at 6:42 pm to
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We should give free food to all citizens over the age of 62. If you can get social security, you can get free food.


Have you been to a grocery store lately ?

A lot of elderly people are on food stamps.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66766 posts
Posted on 12/2/19 at 7:07 pm to
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Parents are forced to send them and truancy is a thing.


They’re also supposed to feed them whether they’re in school or not.
Posted by SantaFe
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
6598 posts
Posted on 12/2/19 at 8:23 pm to
Everyone should take a day off from work and spend a day at your local public middle school. I taught for 22 years in the EBR public school system and witnessed the decline and fall of a wonderful school nutrition program. Every school would cook its' own food that was tasty and filling,served on real plates with metal silverware. If kids asked for seconds they could get it.Almost all the teachers ate lunch daily. Cost cutting measures implemented by a superintendent in the early 1980s caused food to be cooked by one regional kitchen and then trucked to the schools to be served on styroform plates with plastic utensils. Don't worry about getting seconds because the quality of the food went so bad that most of the kids got served and just threw it in the trash.The kids call it "jail house food".
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
34787 posts
Posted on 12/2/19 at 8:45 pm to
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What else can we do to make them refuse to support themselves?


FIFY
Posted by dovehunter
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2014
1234 posts
Posted on 12/2/19 at 8:59 pm to
Good post Santa Fe. I think a school lunch should be budgeted in for every kid if they want it. No stigma. This includes private and parochial schools as part of the foundation funding. The food should be prepared hot at each school and the food should be good and nutritious. If the kid or parents prefer to send lunch that’s fine. Give the excess food to the Council on Aging or other charitable cause that feeds adults or elderly poor. I’m sure this is doable and will not result in any significant cost increase to the taxpayer.

Make sure the kids are fed and hopefully as well educated as possible. We provide enough sports equipment for the kids in the budget so why not food?

Posted by FCP
Delta State Univ. - Fightin' Okra
Member since Sep 2010
4796 posts
Posted on 12/2/19 at 8:59 pm to
<-- As small government conservative / libertarian as there is, but I have no problem with free lunches for the school kiddos. My kids are in Livingston Parish schools, and we had to pay for their lunches for 3-4 years until the Flood. Since then, their lunches have been free.

The actual financial cost wasn't significant for our middle class family, but I could see it posing a financial burden for single parents, etc. It ultimately poses more of an acute issue for kids whose parents can't pay. That's why I'm okay with the cost of public education including the cost of a basic, standard meal for everyone there.

And, I absolutely hate this logic, but in the grand scheme of governmental handouts, the cost of feeding schoolkids is minuscule. For that matter, non-Medicaid welfare in general is a minuscule portion of this country's debt.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
131446 posts
Posted on 12/2/19 at 9:11 pm to
No such thing as a free lunch.
Posted by dovehunter
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2014
1234 posts
Posted on 12/2/19 at 9:17 pm to
It’s part of the cost of educating the kids. Nothing is free. What really costs society is poor education.
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
10151 posts
Posted on 12/2/19 at 9:24 pm to
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jointly introduced a bill Tuesday that would provide up to three free meals per day to all U.S. school children, regardless of family income level.

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The bill also increases the amount spent on each meal to $2.72 for breakfast and $3.81 for lunch and dinner

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More Than 76 Million Students Enrolled in U.S. Schools, Census Bureau Reports

So roughly $746 million per day?? What does it cost now? I'm all for not having kids go hungry but...you can't just give it all to everyone.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56641 posts
Posted on 12/2/19 at 9:25 pm to
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It seems strange to me that we are going to spend $10,000 plus per student per year on education, and fret over $200 in lunch costs (and probably a lot lower than that once you remove the compliance costs).

Nothing is free... this is true. Sometimes, we as a society decide that we would rather collectively pay for something, to ensure a certain standard is met.



What standard? What standard isn't being met that will now be met?

It really sounds like you are trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist. Parents certainly can and do feed their kids, right?
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56641 posts
Posted on 12/2/19 at 9:29 pm to
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It’s not the kid’s fault that their families are broke and won’t send them with food. We should feed them. That one meal a day might be enough reason to keep them coming to school. That is one more chance that they don’t end up on welfare.
I have donated a lot of my time to packing lunches for kids in inner city schools. They get a back pack on Friday to take home so they can have food. You can see it that that is the only meal they might get that weekend.



Why in the world would you be ok with sending a kid into an environment that they won't even be fed? That's abuse.

Is it because they are black?
Posted by Modern
Fiddy Men
Member since May 2011
16879 posts
Posted on 12/2/19 at 9:30 pm to
Some of y’all, lemme take that back ALOT of y’all need to step out your picture perfect private school and go walk through an inner city public school.

Anyone that is saying that a kid shouldn’t get fed a lunch at school because the parents don’t pay should be spat on.

I don’t give a F if their parents are on food stamps or not. It’s not THE CHILDS fault that their lazy momma sells their stamps for cash at the 1st of the month.

These school lunches (rather they be great or not), are alot of times the ONLY meal of any type they get all day.

Just sit and observe how kids eat. The ones that’s scarfing down a plate of food in less than 2 min, are the ones that don’t get fed at home.


Yeah, screw the lazy arse momma and the non-existent dad, but don’t have THE CHILD be punished for them. They didn’t ask to be placed here in the first place.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56641 posts
Posted on 12/2/19 at 9:56 pm to
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Some of y’all, lemme take that back ALOT of y’all need to step out your picture perfect private school and go walk through an inner city public school.

Anyone that is saying that a kid shouldn’t get fed a lunch at school because the parents don’t pay should be spat on.

I don’t give a F if their parents are on food stamps or not. It’s not THE CHILDS fault that their lazy momma sells their stamps for cash at the 1st of the month.

These school lunches (rather they be great or not), are alot of times the ONLY meal of any type they get all day.



So, we're supposed to provide a lunch an pretend there is not a bigger issue here? Children should be left in the care of a "lazy momma" who is already getting assistance to pay for food but who simply won't feed their kid?

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Yeah, screw the lazy arse momma and the non-existent dad, but don’t have THE CHILD be punished for them. They didn’t ask to be placed here in the first place.



You don't want to address the real problem. You want to provide a lunch and allow the real abuse to continue.
Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
Member since Jul 2007
10996 posts
Posted on 12/2/19 at 9:56 pm to
I used to bring a single slice of bologna on white bread with a carton of milk and an apple in my lunch box.

People today are such light weights...
Posted by simonizer
no
Member since Oct 2008
1647 posts
Posted on 12/2/19 at 10:01 pm to
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Don't worry about getting seconds because the quality of the food went so bad that most of the kids got served and just threw it in the trash.The kids call it "jail house food".


so they obviously were not hungry
Posted by ljhog
Lake Jackson, Tx.
Member since Apr 2009
19084 posts
Posted on 12/2/19 at 10:34 pm to
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Feed the damn kids.

I agree with this.
Posted by Ollieoxenfree99
Member since Aug 2018
7748 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 1:07 am to
I'd be on board with this if schools also required kids to do community service for their tax-payers.

There is always trash to be picked up. Start em at age 12.
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
29712 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 2:59 am to
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If we force them to be in school then we should feed them.



I do think this is one of those "handouts" that should exist. Public school is paid for by tax payers, so the lunch should be included in that bill which we pay.


I actually agree with this, but 9nly if.accepting the lunch is not required (i.e. parents can opt to send something else) AND only if any and all of Michelle Obama's overbearing requirements are canned

well, maybe one more caveat, I DO NOT want to see this becoming a federal law, let it be a state or local municipality decision

but understand this, IF this happens, that means taxes go up to fund it

should.it be only property taxes? should buying a home mean you have to.pony up more to feed everyone else's kids? I kind of have a problem with that

Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
29712 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 3:00 am to
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A lot of kids get free lunches. What do they cost in public school now - a dollar or two?

that is about right, at least in Hoover, AL
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