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re: Thoughts on kids and school lunches
Posted on 12/3/19 at 12:42 pm to LSUFanHouston
Posted on 12/3/19 at 12:42 pm to LSUFanHouston
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What I am saying is that there aren't enough foster parents in the system now, to handle the demand we have.
So, leave kids with parents who starve them? Great.
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If we have no other choice, we have no other choice. But I don't want to move a kid from a bad situation to a worse one, either, and that's what you would do with the lack of additional foster care parents.
And foster care, you say is bad... but it's better than a state home, which is where most of the kids will end up. Get ready for that cost...
The reality is that the parents who aren't feeding their kids by and large are doing so because they understand the system and know their kids are going to be fed anyway.
If parents were required to either fund an account (either with money or snap credits) to pay for their kids with real financial consequences if they didn't do so, you'd see very, very few decide not to feed their kids.
Refusal to do so resulting in Social Services getting involved, or fines/community service solves this problem to as great of a degree as you can.
Posted on 12/3/19 at 12:48 pm to moneyg
quote:But they wouldn't be able to sell their food stamps for fifty cents on the dollar!
If parents were required to either fund an account (either with money or snap credits) to pay for their kids with real financial consequences if they didn't do so, you'd see very, very few decide not to feed their kids.
Posted on 12/3/19 at 12:52 pm to hawkeye007
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your sir are an a-hole...just in case know one has pointed that out to you yet today.
Did you many families double dip? They get food stamps which cover 3 meals a day for their children, and still qualify for free lunches because their children are still showing up to school without lunches.
But yes, I'm the a-hole because I expect my taxes that are being taken from me to feed other people's children actually be used to feed other people's children and am angry when they aren't.
GFY. Or better yet, stop taxing me over this shite and I'll stop having an opinion about it.
Posted on 12/3/19 at 1:14 pm to Azkiger
yep still an a-hole. It's school lunch man calm down. It's about the children not their parents financial actions. Alot of school districts are going to free lunches now. How about our tax dollars to school pay for that.
Posted on 12/3/19 at 1:15 pm to wickowick
I'm pretty sure farmers like the idea of giving each kid three meals a day.
Posted on 12/3/19 at 1:19 pm to LSUFanHouston
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Taking these kids away are going to create a set of problems that in my opinion, are much worse than the problems you would be trying to solve.
I just don't see how this can be argued.
We take children who are being beaten by their parents. Yes, this creates a new need where one wasn't needed before. But, we consider this new need to be worth getting abused children away from abusers.
Failing to feed your child is abuse.
quote:Initially, absolutely.
but the added costs will be higher
But, you'd very quickly send the message that babies aren't meal tickets and, people really do react to such stimuli. You would have fewer meal ticket seeking parents.
Posted on 12/3/19 at 1:20 pm to LSUFanHouston
quote:I know orphanage ain't a great option. But I would love to hear how it's worse than being with an adult who chooses not to feed you?
I submit that being in an orphanage is greater than being with an adult who can't be bothered to feed you.
Interesting. I disagree.
Posted on 12/3/19 at 1:22 pm to LSUFanHouston
quote:I do think that it would be worthwhile to consider, but, I can live with having them.
Maybe it is semantics, but everything is obviously being paid for.
You seem to be advocating for dismantling the school lunch program.
I'm simply pointing out that if it is true that a kid NEEDS this meal otherwise he won't be fed, then that's also true in June............so, maybe we aren't addressing the correct problem
Posted on 12/3/19 at 1:23 pm to moneyg
quote:Exactly
The reality is that the parents who aren't feeding their kids by and large are doing so because they understand the system and know their kids are going to be fed anyway.
If you give me $5 to feed my kid, but then tell me you're going to feed my kid, cool, now I have $5 extra bucks.
MOST parents, if you said, "ok, I'm not feeding them anymore" will use that $5 to feed their kid now.
The ones who don't? Take their kids.
Posted on 12/3/19 at 1:25 pm to ShortyRob
If you are concerned about food stamp fraud then giving the food directly to the kids is how you fight food stamp fraud.
Posted on 12/3/19 at 1:28 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
quote:As I said, give them the food.
If you are concerned about food stamp fraud then giving the food directly to the kids is how you fight food stamp fraud.
Then, deduct that $$ from the food stamps the parent gets.
Simple
Posted on 12/3/19 at 1:45 pm to hawkeye007
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It's about the children not their parents financial actions.
My critique is about the parents lack of responsibility.
The parents who apply for free school lunches should have that amount (labor, transportation of ingredients, and ingredients) deducted from their food stamp benefits.
Posted on 12/3/19 at 1:52 pm to Azkiger
do you care this much about how the federal govt spends all of "your money" ?
Posted on 12/3/19 at 3:24 pm to hawkeye007
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do you care this much about how the federal govt spends all of "your money" ?
Classic whataboutism...
Posted on 12/3/19 at 4:31 pm to Crimson Wraith
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gubment
that's so 1960's -70's
Posted on 12/4/19 at 11:34 am to Azkiger
this board is a classic case of "whataboutism" so you don't care is what your telling me
Posted on 12/4/19 at 11:40 am to ShortyRob
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Take their kids.
And do what with them? A lot in the thread want to do this but no one knows what to do with the kids that are taken away.
I'd love for every kid to get 3 squares a day, not be abused and have a warm place to lay their heads at night.....so how do we do this? Yeah I'm being dead arse serious.
Posted on 12/4/19 at 11:40 am to hawkeye007
How many kids in this world should I feed? My two, the two from the other program I participate in. Food stamps. Free lunch at schools. The homeless shelter. The church.
How many is enough to you progs?
How many is enough to you progs?
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