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re: Thoughts on kids and school lunches

Posted on 12/3/19 at 3:10 am to
Posted by dcbl
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Posted on 12/3/19 at 3:10 am to
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Healthy school lunches may be the only thing I’ve ever agreed with Michelle Obama about
except a lot of the kids won't eat it in many cases

the took out the deep.fryers in the Hoover schools

no more fried chicken. in Alabama



I can agree to.some.nutrition requirements, but the Obama plan was a little over the top and made lunches not taste as good

the rest of your post I'm all on on
This post was edited on 12/3/19 at 3:12 am
Posted by dcbl
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Posted on 12/3/19 at 3:17 am to
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Parents who have kids that they cannot or will not feed certainly deserve ridicule
yes they do, but that is not how it works

it is the kids who receive the scorn and ridicule of their peers & the deadbeat parents are pretty much removed from it

Posted by dcbl
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Posted on 12/3/19 at 3:22 am to
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It’s not the kid’s fault that their families are broke and won’t send them with food. We should feed them. That one meal a day might be enough reason to keep them coming to school. That is one more chance that they don’t end up on welfare.
I have donated a lot of my time to packing lunches for kids in inner city schools. They get a back pack on Friday to take home so they can have food. You can see it that that is the only meal they might get that weekend.
good for you, amazing that 2 (as of now) assholes downvoted you for sharing what you do altruistically
Posted by dcbl
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Posted on 12/3/19 at 3:23 am to
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Why in the world would you be ok with sending a kid into an environment that they won't even be fed? That's abuse.

Is it because they are black?
why be an a-hole.about this?

Posted by dcbl
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Posted on 12/3/19 at 3:24 am to
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the kids end up being the ones who are hurt by all of this. they are the ones who go hungry or get embarrassed at school, not the parents.
yes
Posted by dcbl
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Posted on 12/3/19 at 3:32 am to
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Change the law , don't feed the prisoners.

Why would I care if they get fed , they are criminals
yeah, I can support this

at a minimum, make them.work for their food, give them meal credits for performing certain tasks, those that refuse to work don't get to eat

OR, if they have resources, they can pay for their meals, money directly to the prison and ZERO options, just the priviledge of getting whatever is being served that day
This post was edited on 12/3/19 at 3:34 am
Posted by dcbl
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Posted on 12/3/19 at 3:39 am to
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I get that but not all people in prison are murderers or kid diddlers. Some go on to be productive members of society when they get out. I don't want to starve them to death either.
what do you think.of.my idea?

simple tasks and responsibilities to earn their meals?

I'm serious, what we are doing in prisons now is.not working, look at the recidivism rates

making them.work in order to get fed IS teaching a life skill

no one has to.starve, just do yuh our assigned job

I know that it is probably impractical and would be difficult to implement, but the idea has some merit
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 12/3/19 at 5:53 am to
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What say you?

Give the kids 3 meals a day and the prisoners 1
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56653 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 5:57 am to
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why be an a-hole.about this?



The premise is that there are kids who don't already have lunch provided, who have parents who will not feed them. And, they won't feed them at home either.

That's abuse. That's the real issue that needs to be addressed. I don't want them hungry. But, I sure as hell don't want them living in an environment where their most basic need is not being met.
Posted by Capital Cajun
Over Yonder
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 12/3/19 at 6:02 am to
I say if you have children you should take the responsibility to feed them. A couple eggs in the morning and a brown bag sandwich is not that expensive and not hard to make.

The truly poor gets money/vouchers/food stamps for food, why do the schools need to step in to feed them?

If the parents can’t feed their kids then the state should remove the kids because in reality they will never be able to function coming out of an environment like that.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 12/3/19 at 6:15 am to
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I'm not big on government welfare at all but when viewed in the light of prisoners getting 3 meals a day I can't believe we still don't just have one free meal a day for kids in school.

What say you?


I agree...

But the food is crap...my kids won't eat school lunch which is not free.

Can you imagine how bad it would be if it was free?
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67497 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 6:16 am to
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If the parents can’t feed their kids then the state should remove the kids

And do what with them? Right now there's over 400K in foster care and not enough foster parents.

Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 12/3/19 at 7:03 am to
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And do what with them? Right now there's over 400K in foster care and not enough foster parents.



Stop and consider your question.

Are you really saying that we need to leave kids in the care of people who won't feed them?
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67497 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 7:08 am to
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Stop and consider your question

I did.....now you stop and consider the consequences of your suggestion.

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Are you really saying that we need to leave kids in the care of people who won't feed them?

Won't or can't? I agree to a point on the won't....i.e. parents are just shitty people and almost non-existent on parenting but what do you do with the kids you remove?

Bad decisions lead to bad consequences; intended or otherwise.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56653 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 7:19 am to
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Won't or can't? I agree to a point on the won't....i.e. parents are just shitty people and almost non-existent on parenting but what do you do with the kids you remove?



There is no difference between won't and can't when it comes to feeding a child. In either scenario, you can't leave the kid with the parent.

There is a ton of assistance available. If kids aren't being fed, there is a bigger issue. And, if you don't address the bigger issue, it will never end and you do much more damage.

A lot of people are very concerned until they face the reality that solving the real problem is very inconvenient.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42732 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 7:36 am to
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Those parents who cannot
are few and should not
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have to face any ridicule for not doing so.


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Those parents who will not
are legion and should
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face monumental ridicule for not doing so.


It is time that parents should put their children's welfare ahead of tattoos, fancy nails, etc
Posted by TigerSprings
Southeast LA
Member since Jan 2019
1586 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 7:50 am to
I say that if the kid doesn't like the lunch at school, he/she can make their own damn lunch and bring it to school. All these "holier than thou" parents talking about making their kids lunch so they don't depend on the government, is bull shite. Kids can do it themselves, or get the junk government provides. If you make lunches for the kids, you are just an enabler of a spoiled dependent who will expect the world to provide for them.
Posted by Ollieoxenfree99
Member since Aug 2018
7748 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 7:52 am to
They don't care about ridicule. I have a friend that stocks her classroom with travel sized deoderants, self-cleaning, and hygiene products bc kids come to school in the same clothes and don't bathe.

Parents are raising animals, not kids.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67497 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 7:56 am to
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There is no difference between won't and can't when it comes to feeding a child.

Of course there is
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In either scenario, you can't leave the kid with the parent.

But you've never answered the question of what to do with them; have the state build a large warehouse & put them all in it? Force other relatives to take them in?
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There is a ton of assistance available

Yes there is
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If kids aren't being fed, there is a bigger issue. And, if you don't address the bigger issue, it will never end and you do much more damage.

And just taking the kids will do more damage than you know.
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A lot of people are very concerned until they face the reality that solving the real problem is very inconvenient.

OK solve the problem of what do you do with the kids you remove?
Posted by Bedhog
Denham Springs
Member since Apr 2019
3741 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 8:08 am to
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OK solve the problem of what do you do with the kids you remove?


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