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re: This is disappointing if true. Trump killed a sophisticated plan to topple Iran via kurds
Posted on 5/30/26 at 7:33 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Posted on 5/30/26 at 7:33 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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The Kurds are like the Fremen from Dune.
More like the Sand People in Star Wars. More of an annoyance than anything.
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Posted on 5/30/26 at 7:35 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Libertarians influenced Trump's foreign policy, huh?
The mental gymnastics you guys are coming up w/ is hilarious. Just admit that you're a neocon and be done w/ it. It will probably be a relief.
The mental gymnastics you guys are coming up w/ is hilarious. Just admit that you're a neocon and be done w/ it. It will probably be a relief.
Posted on 5/30/26 at 7:37 pm to Wareagle1990
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The same Israelis that convinced us to topple Saddam’s regime in Iraq?
And fricked up the "balance" of power in the region
They ALL feared Saddam and his sons. they bitch slapped the iranians for shits and giggles. During gulf storm, we found 1000's of shallow graves with Iranian guard members.
He kept everyone in region in line. He was a POS, and his kids were the worst, but he did his job in the area.
Posted on 5/30/26 at 7:39 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Trump and Vance have no clue what they are doing with Iran. This blunder is going to cost the US big time within 10 years. Trump is being so weak and manipulated on this.
Posted on 5/30/26 at 7:46 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
I seem to notice, it’s the same exact few people who post this exact same type garbage every single time. And fairly often at that. But THIS time, maybe, finally it might be the single one that’s dead on. But not knowing which one that might be, only safe bet is just to believe all of them, amirite? 
Posted on 5/30/26 at 7:52 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Read this other point of view. Trump is only on Act 3. Act 4 and 5 will be brutal for them.
Acts 4&5
Acts 4&5
Posted on 5/30/26 at 7:55 pm to Wareagle1990
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The same Israelis that convinced us to topple Saddam’s regime in Iraq?
Israel warned bush not to go after Iraq, as it would empower Iran.
Netanyahu wasn’t in office when he testified in Congress, he was a private citizen.
Posted on 5/30/26 at 8:00 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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This is disappointing if true. Trump killed a sophisticated plan to topple Iran via kurds
So that someone else could promise the Kurds their own land and then not give it to them? They've been down that road of fighting other peoples' wars for nothing in return.
I don't buy it.
Posted on 5/30/26 at 8:15 pm to TigerAxeOK
You know why they don't allow the Kurds to reproduce with the Turkish??
They didn't want to produce a bunch of Turds
They didn't want to produce a bunch of Turds
Posted on 5/30/26 at 8:16 pm to 632627
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Israel warned bush not to go after Iraq, as it would empower Iran.
Netanyahu wasn’t in office when he testified in Congress, he was a private citizen.
Netanyahu and the current people in power absolutely wanted us to invade and pushed for it.
Sharon initially opposed the Iraq War but in very short order supported it
Posted on 5/30/26 at 8:19 pm to joshnorris14
Don’t you agree it would be a monumental moment in history if trump strolled into a liberated Tehran?
Posted on 5/30/26 at 8:20 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Turkey is next on the menu for Netanyahu. This is just setting the stage.
Posted on 5/30/26 at 8:22 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
This is dump.
Posted on 5/30/26 at 8:23 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Kurds practice female genital mutation.
Do we really want to associate with non-Arab crazy Muslims?
Do we really want to associate with non-Arab crazy Muslims?
Posted on 5/30/26 at 8:24 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Imagine believing this lol
Posted on 5/30/26 at 8:32 pm to DallasTiger11
I truly believe Israel was about to go full Germany 1940 France operation with a swift conquering of Tehran.
Trump let a libertarian dweeb convince him it wouldn’t work
Trump would be walking the streets of Tehran with the new Shah and his approval ratings would be 55%.
What could have been
Trump let a libertarian dweeb convince him it wouldn’t work
Trump would be walking the streets of Tehran with the new Shah and his approval ratings would be 55%.
What could have been
Posted on 5/30/26 at 8:34 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Likely to succeed? The Kurds were apparently keeping all of the arms we were trying to smuggle into Iranian citizens hands.
Posted on 5/30/26 at 8:35 pm to joshnorris14
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Sharon initially opposed the Iraq War but in very short order supported it
So Bush/US convinced Israeli leadership?
But I thought the narrative was that Israel dragged us into Iraq and we fought on their behalf?
Posted on 5/30/26 at 8:37 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Don’t you agree it would be a monumental moment in history if trump strolled into a liberated Tehran?
Sure. I just disagree with multiple points you made in the OP. The Likuds do not have some amazing track record with this kind of thing.
Syria? Arming al Qaeda finally worked out for them after a 10+ year civil war, but yes, we have al Qaeda leading the country.
Iraq? Genius idea installing a democracy in a country that is 75% Shia next door to Iran.
On top of the fact that arming Kurds would *never* be a sufficient plan to overthrow the Islamic regime.
And it wasn't "someone in Trump's ear". It was cited in the story as Erdogan. Who probably convinced Trump on the idiocy of the plan due to second order effects (conflict in Turkey, via Israel by proxy).
Posted on 5/30/26 at 8:37 pm to 632627
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But I thought the narrative was that Israel dragged us into Iraq and we fought on their behalf?
Israelis*
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