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This is disappointing if true. Trump killed a sophisticated plan to topple Iran via kurds
Posted on 5/30/26 at 5:59 pm
Posted on 5/30/26 at 5:59 pm
Israel flawlessly maneuvered so many plans over past few years (Hezbollah beepers, Gaza strikes, targeted assassinations, etc), so there is no reason to think the below plan would fail. Someone got in trump’s ear at the last minute and told him to stop.
If this plan was green lit, trump would currently be at 50%+ approval, likely would have been able to visit a liberated Tehran in a historic moment in American history, and gas would be back to normal. fricking libertarians (and Turkey) got in his ear.
Trump personally nixed a highly-likely-to-succeed Kurdish invasion of Iran
If this plan was green lit, trump would currently be at 50%+ approval, likely would have been able to visit a liberated Tehran in a historic moment in American history, and gas would be back to normal. fricking libertarians (and Turkey) got in his ear.
Trump personally nixed a highly-likely-to-succeed Kurdish invasion of Iran
Posted on 5/30/26 at 6:01 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
there were too many kurds in the way
Posted on 5/30/26 at 6:05 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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A highly likely to succeed
Posted on 5/30/26 at 6:08 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
According to the Israeli source, it would have been a success? The same Israelis that convinced us to topple Saddam’s regime in Iraq? If Israel wants regime change in Iran so badly, they need to do it themselves. Tired of the U.S. being expected to do their dirty work
Posted on 5/30/26 at 6:09 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Sophisicated and kurds.... i'll pass.
Posted on 5/30/26 at 6:09 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
You might want to take a look at a map if you thought that plan was highly likely to succeed. This is just more Israeli stupidity and Trump did the right thing by telling whoever told him this to pound sand.
Posted on 5/30/26 at 6:18 pm to Powerman
The Kurds are like the Fremen from Dune.
Combine them with Israeli tech and American pow-wow……holy shite it would have been hot knife through butter
Combine them with Israeli tech and American pow-wow……holy shite it would have been hot knife through butter
Posted on 5/30/26 at 6:20 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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If this plan was green lit, trump would currently be at 50%+ approval
I didn't see anything in the plan about nuking CA, IL and NY.
Posted on 5/30/26 at 6:21 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
So trying to pull an Iraq or Afghanistan (which went so well) with a country with nuclear material.
Such a great idea.
Such a great idea.
Posted on 5/30/26 at 6:21 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Iranian kurds are not the same
Posted on 5/30/26 at 6:23 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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This is disappointing if true. Trump killed a sophisticated plan to topple Iran via kurds
That’s not disappointing to me. That sounds like a recipe for a cluster frick.
Posted on 5/30/26 at 6:32 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
I can’t keep up, do yall like Trump listening to Israel or not?
Posted on 5/30/26 at 6:33 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Where there’s Kurds there’s a whey.
This post was edited on 5/30/26 at 6:36 pm
Posted on 5/30/26 at 6:42 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
But but Trump listens to Israel and is their little puppet.
Posted on 5/30/26 at 6:43 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
The story specifically says Erdogan convinced Trump. Probably telling Trump that Israel wanted war with Turkey, which would actually be a real "World War 3" scenario, unlike the conflict with Iran.
Regardless, we would not be able to topple Iran in any meaningful way without committing to an American invasion, which we clearly are not comfortable with doing
Regardless, we would not be able to topple Iran in any meaningful way without committing to an American invasion, which we clearly are not comfortable with doing
Posted on 5/30/26 at 6:47 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Sy Hersh has said a few times there was a slow play plan. I don't think it involved the Kurds.
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There were eventually secret meetings about how to proceed in Iran at a Midwest air base between a group of senior US Air Force and as many as forty Israeli planning officers as well as separate planning sessions in Washington with other visiting Israelis and senior presidential advisers. These included at varying times Elbridge Colby, undersecretary of defense for policy, Dan Driscoll, secretary of the Army, and Michel Waltz, the UN ambassador. The bottom line of the meetings was to keep on attacking Iran and making sure the ayatollahs did not get the bomb. The three are highly competent men, no matter their political views, but, let’s face it—at some point you are who you work for.
An early option sought by some Israelis was the overthrow of the religious regime in Iran, but not immediately or directly. A revolt would need time, and a lot of confidence-building. Protesters taking to the streets, as happened over the winter, led to slaughter. The Israelis wanted more time—perhaps not until late spring or early summer, to recruit support from among the chary generals in the Iranian national army.
Why not bring in a few retrained Army units and, with the recruitment of friendly locals, take on the Revolutionary Guards controlling a few smaller villages and towns far from Tehran and show that the religious faction was not insurmountable? The idea was to show the timid regular army and the often brutalized people of Tehran that revolt, with the right support, was possible.
That plan, at whatever level it was presented, went nowhere in Washington. The Trump administration remained obsessed, not with bringing about a relatively peaceful overthrow of the sitting government in Iran, but about the possible nuclear threat posed by partially enriched uranium probably still in tunnels under one of the Iranian nuclear facilities attacked over the summer.
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Posted on 5/30/26 at 6:48 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
The Kurds in absolute no way have the ability to take Iran even with our air power support, not even close. Iranians who hate their government wouldn’t even be for that. Would be a complete destabilizing of the already unstable ME
This post was edited on 5/30/26 at 6:50 pm
Posted on 5/30/26 at 7:12 pm to Mushroom1968
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The Kurds in absolute no way have the ability to take Iran even with our air power support, not even close. Iranians who hate their government wouldn’t even be for that. Would be a complete destabilizing of the already unstable ME
Don't let the fact that the Kurds make up a tiny portion of the countries population, are generally hated by even the anti -government Iranians, and only have footholds in parts of the country that are isolated get in the way of HHTM getting upset about the Likud Party not being fully supported by the American government
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