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re: This has not been a good week to be Catholic

Posted on 4/16/26 at 12:07 pm to
Posted by Dog Tree
Member since Sep 2019
588 posts
Posted on 4/16/26 at 12:07 pm to
Can people who aren't Catholics, make it in to Heaven? According to Catholics, can jews and Muslims make it into Heaven?
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
79846 posts
Posted on 4/16/26 at 12:08 pm to
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The Pope will have a terrible May.
It will happen to one of them one May and those folks will claim they "knew."
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
80702 posts
Posted on 4/16/26 at 12:09 pm to
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Leo is a very young Pope that will be reminded for the rest of his life that he should not have gone political . Will have a lifelong credibility deficiency


That depends.

Opposing war is hardly a stretch for a pope. It isn't even at odds with Trump from 2015-2025.

If he shows the same energy for Newscum he'll have credibility. If he remains silent he'll be a partisan hack.
Posted by Lutcher Lad
South of the Mason-Dixon Line
Member since Sep 2009
7532 posts
Posted on 4/16/26 at 12:11 pm to
I'm Catholic and have been all my life. The Pope should stick to religious matters and leave the politics to those elected into power. The higher ups in the Catholic religion lost some credibility during the abuse to alter boys fiasco.
Posted by JellyRoll
Member since Apr 2024
1969 posts
Posted on 4/16/26 at 12:12 pm to
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them, their faith, and the institution of the Roman Catholic Church


Wow, and some claim this is Christ's church.
Posted by Tbone2
Member since Jun 2015
786 posts
Posted on 4/16/26 at 12:15 pm to
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Can people who aren't Catholics, make it in to Heaven? According to Catholics, can jews and Muslims make it into Heaven?


Yes.
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
71096 posts
Posted on 4/16/26 at 12:15 pm to
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The Pope should stick to religious matters and leave the politics to those elected into power.


You mean those like himself? He was elected into power.
Posted by MSMHater
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
23247 posts
Posted on 4/16/26 at 12:16 pm to
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You mean those like himself? He was elected into power.

Posted by wallowinit
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2006
17668 posts
Posted on 4/16/26 at 12:17 pm to
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Glad I'm not one.

Glad you’re not as well
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
42412 posts
Posted on 4/16/26 at 12:18 pm to
Imagine thinking attacking the Catholic Church is a winning strategy for the right
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
8167 posts
Posted on 4/16/26 at 12:18 pm to
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It helped me realize that the political corruption of liberals has spread all the way to the Pope.


You may have that backwards.
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
24293 posts
Posted on 4/16/26 at 12:21 pm to
Not taxing at all, pretty easy to back the only true religion but also disagree with the political leadership and nonsense. The church should return to a more Latin mass and should keep politics out of it.
Posted by UptownJoeBrown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2024
9787 posts
Posted on 4/16/26 at 12:21 pm to
Pope has yet to criticize Iran for murdering 10s of thousands of it’s own citizens. All I need to know about this Pope.
Posted by DTRooster
Belle River, La
Member since Dec 2013
9041 posts
Posted on 4/16/26 at 12:24 pm to
Why, I won’t apologize for being Catholic. The Pope is just another person with opinions and you know what they about opinions. He’s wasn’t ordained by God but picked by people that have faults just like me and he’s prone to making bad decisions just like me. I couldn’t care less for the institution, the ideals are good enough for me.
Posted by msutiger
Houston
Member since Jul 2008
71995 posts
Posted on 4/16/26 at 12:26 pm to
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Can people who aren't Catholics, make it in to Heaven? According to Catholics, can jews and Muslims make it into Heaven?


We don't get a vote. Any Christian who thinks they know/determine who gets into heaven is condemning themselves.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
46779 posts
Posted on 4/16/26 at 12:26 pm to
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Can people who aren't Catholics, make it in to Heaven? According to Catholics, can jews and Muslims make it into Heaven?
Yes. They basically teach that everyone is accountable to the light of nature that they have, and that if someone is faithful to the tradition they grew up and lived with (Islam, Buddhism, etc.), then there is a possibility for salvation for them even without faith in Jesus as their Savior.

Protestants who are faithful to their traditions and also ignorant of Catholicism can also have hope of Salvation, too.

However, Protestants who have studied what the Catholic church teaches, and willfully reject it should have no hope of salvation.

That means that I--a faithful Presbyterian (conservative kind)--who trusts in the Lord Jesus Christ completely for the forgiveness of my sins, serves my church, worships God consistently (two services each week) according to what I believe He commands, gives to the church at least 10% of my earnings, who gives counsel to the hurting, who shows love to those in despair, who helps the widow, the elderly, the orphan, who raises my children in the fear and instruction of the Lord, who witnesses to the lost the gospel of Jesus Christ, and who seeks to do all good works that are pleasing to the Lord according to my understanding in faith and repentance for sin, have a lesser chance at going to Heaven than the sincere Muslim, because I have spent many years studying the Roman Catholic church and reject it. The only hope I have is to become a Catholic, because I reject the "true faith".

ETA:
I should add that even through what I said should be the logical conclusion of their various decrees, they may still hold that I can go to Heaven because the form of rejection I hold to is some form of non-culpable ignorance. I don't know how that is the case, but canon law has a lot of loopholes, apparently, even through it's supposed to be infallibly clear.
This post was edited on 4/16/26 at 1:46 pm
Posted by catholictigerfan
Member since Oct 2009
59876 posts
Posted on 4/16/26 at 12:28 pm to
It was Divine Mercy Sunday this past weekend. I went to confession, received an indulgence for going to Mass on Divine Mercy Sunday, and it may have been perpetual, but it was at least partial! I say a good week!

While I don't like the back-and-forth between Leo and Trump, it doesn't really affect my day-to-day life unless I choose to let it.

Also, didn't 60 Minutes release a video saying that conversions into the Catholic Church are up?
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
80702 posts
Posted on 4/16/26 at 12:33 pm to
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Imagine thinking attacking the Catholic Church is a winning strategy for the right


Agree.

But I would also argue that starting a pissing match with Trump was a dumb move by Leo.

Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65651 posts
Posted on 4/16/26 at 12:34 pm to
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Do you realize how many Catholics vote republican? He's single handily destroying his voter base. Impressive stuff really.


Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61155 posts
Posted on 4/16/26 at 12:40 pm to
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But I would also argue that starting a pissing match with Trump was a dumb move by Leo.


As if we don’t have actual problems in this country that our POTUS could devote this bandwidth too.
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