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re: The Panama Canal is running dry. That's the U.S.'s fault and the U.S.'s problem

Posted on 9/18/23 at 3:09 pm to
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55580 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 3:09 pm to
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I'm not an engineer, but there seems to be a somewhat obvious (long-term) solution to this water problem.

If you are thinking of using ocean water, that is certainly possible, but it would be extremely expensive to pump that water 25 miles and up 100 feet.

Also it would require massive rework so the saltwater does not destroy the ecosystem.
Posted by tigerfan 64
in the LP
Member since Sep 2016
6473 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 3:30 pm to
And that could be filled with salt water, couldn't it?
Posted by John Coctostan
Member since May 2018
575 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 3:33 pm to
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The Panama Canal is running dry.


quote:

The interest is up and the stock market's down And you only get mugged if you go downtown…
This post was edited on 9/18/23 at 3:34 pm
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38343 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 3:43 pm to
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Lol couldn't they just design it not to use fresh water
I think a lot of people picture the Panama Canal as just this for its entire length:



when in reality much of it is an open lake:



As you can see, pumping that much seawater uphill would be a monumental undertaking to say nothing about the impact of filling a huge inland lake with saltwater.



Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
102754 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 4:02 pm to
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the man-made lake to supply the man-made canal.


So it’s climate change drying up an area that was dry before man put a lake and canal there?
Posted by LSU Grad Alabama Fan
369 Cardboard Box Lane
Member since Nov 2019
14232 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 4:05 pm to
Just dig the canal deeper on each side. Problem solved.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
102754 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 4:16 pm to
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The lake forms the center of the canal, and is something like 100 feet or more above sea level. That’s why where are locks at both ends. Ships ascend through the locks, traverse the lake, and descend on the other side.



The lake is about 85 ft deep and also 85ft above sea level. Seems they should dredge a channel through it
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
37352 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 4:19 pm to
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The lake is about 85 ft deep and also 85ft above sea level. Seems they should dredge a channel through it

Why hasn’t anyone ever thought of that!!?!
This post was edited on 9/18/23 at 4:19 pm
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
47188 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 4:22 pm to
The Sahara used to be a tropical greenland . That had nothing to do with man made climate change. The Earth does this all on its own… There is no crisis.
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
19347 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 4:24 pm to
Who said just make the whole thing sea level? I know I didn’t. It would be easy enough to manipulate levels backwards or forward opposite of the lock procedure on any given level with pumping the levels needed. It also would help maintain the unnatural lake developed to for the canal.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
47188 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 4:26 pm to
If you think, making the rich pay their fair share or some such rubbish…

here’s your sign
This post was edited on 9/18/23 at 4:27 pm
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
35539 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 4:32 pm to
So terraforming has unfortunate results? Who knew?
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
29741 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 4:57 pm to
quote:

quote:
I'm not an engineer, but there seems to be a somewhat obvious (long-term) solution to this water problem.

What is it?


The Nicaraguan Canal is the better solution. $10 billion to construct and a much shorter distance than the Panama Canal.

Posted by novabill
Crossville, TN
Member since Sep 2005
10798 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 5:28 pm to
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djmed


Posted by Tarps99
Lafourche Parish
Member since Apr 2017
12719 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 6:16 pm to
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The 50 million gallons of fresh water used to fill the locks of the canal are lost to the Atlantic and Pacific oceans.


Not to sound like a greenie but couldn’t you just build a massive storage tank to recycle the water used to raise and lower the ships at each lock.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
35949 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 6:47 pm to
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No. It still has to climb over significant terrain.

“Just make the whole thing sea level” is a really fricking dumb assessment.


Idiot liberals in Califprnia want to pump water from the Mississippi thousands of miles over the fricking Rocky Mountains to solve their water problems, but pumping water from the oceans for the canal is impossibru?

Totally makes sense.
Posted by evil cockroach
27.98N // 86.92E
Member since Nov 2007
9176 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 8:17 pm to
Easy fix.
1. Build nuclear power plant
2. Build desalinization plant on the coast
3. Pump fresh water into said lake.
4. ????
5. Government steals profit
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
19829 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 8:23 pm to
How long have they been telling us sea levels are rising "at an alarming rate"?

And now a canal, nearly equidistant to both [melting] polar caps, connecting the two largest oceans, is running dry.

Huh.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89814 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 8:30 pm to
So we built lakes that dry up during droughts and we are going to blame man made climate change on it?

How the frick does that work?

Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
115463 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 8:31 pm to
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And remember, it wasn’t just American ingenuity that built the canal, but also American imperialism. Not until 1999 did we relinquish control


And look at how Panama has fricked things up since
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