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re: The official Education rankings are out

Posted on 5/5/25 at 9:29 am to
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 5/5/25 at 9:29 am to
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Oh, so when you only look at white kids? And there is no way this could possibly be seen as evidence of systemic racism. It's because melanin and intellect have an inverse relationship, right?


No matter how woke a state is, black kids can’t fricking read, en masse.

No matter how much money the black populace is in a country, they can’t read.

No matter how isolated they are from the effects of evil whitey, they can’t read.

I don’t know (or care) why or if this is connected to “melanin”. I do know that the single biggest correlating factor for how successful a state/country/city is in the education sector is “how many/few black people do you have in your numbers”. More than money spent, staff attributes, attention given. Just “do you have a lot or a little”.

You can read all that and blame everyone else and scream racism. But that is probably precisely why it’s so ever present and acute. Accountability.
Posted by Nurbis
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 5/5/25 at 9:49 am to
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I do know that the single biggest correlating factor for how successful a state/country/city is in the education sector is “how many/few black people do you have in your numbers”.

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You can read all that and blame everyone else and scream racism.


This is pretty close to what Biden said back when he was campaigning with Obama, so it can't be racist to say it. Only Republicans are racist, you know.

"There's less than one percent of the population of Iowa that is African American. There is probably less than four of five percent that are minorities. What is in Washington? So look, it goes back to what you start off with, what you're dealing with," Biden told the Washington Post at the time.

Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 5/5/25 at 9:51 am to
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I’m from New Mexico and there’s no way we rank 51 out of all 52 US states.


Haha!! Your wrong! There’s 57 remember!?! Irony!
Posted by TigerCoon
Member since Nov 2005
22469 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 9:55 am to
look at Mississippi flexing on the south
Posted by theballguy
HSV (Dealing only in satire)
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Posted on 5/5/25 at 9:58 am to
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I’m from New Mexico and there’s no way we rank 51 out of all 52 US states.



Probably so.

Colorado is ranked #5 and honestly the school systems here seem to me to be about the same as Georgia's was.
Posted by theballguy
HSV (Dealing only in satire)
Member since Oct 2011
37126 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 9:59 am to
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Haha!! Your wrong! There’s 57 remember!?! Irony!



58 if you're counting Greenlandia.
Posted by TigerCoon
Member since Nov 2005
22469 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 9:59 am to
Wyoming and Utah say you should cry more
Posted by dat yat
Chef Pass
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 5/5/25 at 10:17 am to
I'm glad LA and MS are rising; but TN as the smartest place in the SEC? bullshite!
Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
20605 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 10:19 am to
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I'm glad LA and MS are rising; but TN as the smartest place in the SEC? bullshite!



Tennessee schools outside Memphis are pretty dang good. That's why Tennessee has the best job market in the South.
Posted by Grumpy Nemesis
Member since Feb 2025
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Posted on 5/5/25 at 10:28 am to
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I don’t know why conservatives repeat this line. It’s simply not true.


It simply is.

Be careful though. Don't just compare whites in one state to whites and another state. That's a different question. Do I have to spell that one out?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128778 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 11:26 am to
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It simply is.


It’s not. And it’s a retarded take.
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 5/5/25 at 11:33 am to
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I’m from New Mexico and there’s no way we rank 51 out of all 52 US states.


Oh I think you proved yourself wrong there.
Posted by Zgeo
Baja Oklahoma
Member since Jul 2021
3681 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 11:58 am to
Smells like BS
Posted by Grumpy Nemesis
Member since Feb 2025
2033 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 12:23 pm to
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It’s not. And it’s a retarded take.


Nope.

Sorry. I realize it's accepted wisdom but it's just not true. Every single thing you could possibly point to has an easy confounding variable that addresses it. There's really nothing particularly special about teachers and schools in most places. The overwhelming factor in student achievement is the same as it has always been. The student population.
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
20865 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 12:28 pm to
Awesome that Louisiana is not even close to their historical place of last in the country.
Posted by Al Bundy Bulldog
The Grindfather
Member since Dec 2010
36330 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 1:28 pm to
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Damn MS in the top 30 is something


Unlike a ton of States, Mississippi schools all opened in August of 2020 during covid and never closed again (I think with the exception of a few in the delta)
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128778 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 1:47 pm to
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The overwhelming factor in student achievement is the same as it has always been. The student population.


Now you have subtly but very importantly shifted your original argument completely.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
35322 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 2:23 pm to
The demographic contrast between 50, 51 and 52, on the one hand, and 49, on the other, is stark.

Various reddish/brown populations of “native” descent v. shoeless white/blue hillbillies.
Posted by Lynxrufus2012
Central Kentucky
Member since Mar 2020
19803 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 2:32 pm to
Kentucky, Mississippi and Tennessee are ranked higher than California, NY, Oregon and Michigan. Yet for years those bastards called us white trash and hillbillies. Called red states dumb.

Look who is rising and who is falling.
Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
20605 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 2:34 pm to
Michigan and Oregon talk a lot of shite to be in the bottom 1/4 of the nation.
This post was edited on 5/5/25 at 2:36 pm
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