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re: The official Education rankings are out

Posted on 5/5/25 at 8:45 am to
Posted by 4cubbies
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Posted on 5/5/25 at 8:45 am to
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non-adjusted for demographics. (When you adjust, MS, AL and LA are way higher).



What does this mean? What demographics are being adjusted?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128778 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 8:48 am to
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Is there any literature trying to justify that system?


Yeah. There were some shitty studies that came out several decades back. I think they were funded in part by the curriculum companies.

It was an attractive narrative to teachers and educators. “Literacy isn’t one size fits all.”

There’s a decent podcast on the topic called “Sold a Story.”

LINK
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61366 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 8:49 am to
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I'm a phonics baw so I agree with you on the teaching strategies. I'm just curious how they came up with the system you discussed and what they use to justify it



There was a whole expose written about this. I'll see if I can find it.


ETA: The Rise and Fall of Vibes-Based Literacy
This post was edited on 5/5/25 at 8:55 am
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
74849 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 8:50 am to
here we go again. can’t help yourself.
Posted by BuckeyeGoon
Member since Jan 2025
1168 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 8:54 am to
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What demographics are being adjusted?

You know exactly what it means. Making excuses for certain demographics and pretending these obvious patterns don't exist won't make the problem any better, no matter how good it makes liberals feel.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
16072 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 8:54 am to
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mass migration is killing us


Think about how bad it would be if we weren't full of Indians and Chinese to bring the average up.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/5/25 at 8:56 am to
Thank you both
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61366 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 8:57 am to
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You know exactly what it means. Making excuses for certain demographics and pretending these obvious patterns don't exist won't make the problem any better, no matter how good it makes liberals feel.



Oh, so when you only look at white kids?

And there is no way this could possibly be seen as evidence of systemic racism. It's because melanin and intellect have an inverse relationship, right?
Posted by CR4090
Member since Apr 2023
9474 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 8:58 am to
I've met a few New Mexicans. 51 is too high.
Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
20605 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 9:00 am to
Here's an article about what Mississippi did:

LINK

In 2013, Mississippi implemented a multifaceted strategy for enhancing kindergarten to third grade literacy. The Literacy-Based Promotion Act focuses on early literacy and teacher development. It includes teacher training in proven reading instruction methods and teacher coaching.

It includes provisions for reading coaches, parent communication, individual reading plans and other supportive measures. It also includes targeted support for struggling readers. Students repeat the third grade if they fail to meet reading standards.

That’s because early reading is a foundational skill that helps develop the ability to read at grade level by the end of third grade. It also leads to general academic success, graduating from high school prepared for college, and becoming productive adults less likely to fall into poverty.

The program costs $32 per student.
This post was edited on 5/5/25 at 9:03 am
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41043 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 9:01 am to
Louisiana is now ranked higher than Texas
Posted by LSUSkip
Central, LA
Member since Jul 2012
24717 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 9:01 am to
We're smarter than Cali and Oregon!

Suck it "educated" libtards!

Sorry, I just had to.
Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
20605 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 9:04 am to
I do actually believe there is so truth to SFP's claim that COVID did a number on blue states. But its still notable that the states that were 49th and 50th in education for so long have made some significant strides.

Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
20605 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 9:08 am to
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What does this mean? What demographics are being adjusted?



If you take out certain demographics, the states are ranked even higher.

Look at Massachusetts. The state is 8% Asian. In Mississippi, Asians are only 1.2% of the population. If you adjusted Massachusetts Asian population to match Mississippi's, Mississippi would rank closer to Mass. than that do non-adjusted.
Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
4686 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 9:09 am to
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People on the reservation would rather live exactly like they live before they allow any input from Outsiders
In the late 90's I did computer work on the Navajo reservation in western New Mexico. Driving around the reservation, most of the government provided houses had fairly large fenced in back yards with farm animals including horses. I noticed a good portion of those fenced in areas had refrigerators with the doors off on their back being used as water troughs. I asked a local that we worked with about that and he said the government won't buy a water trough, but they will buy a new refrigerator. The residents would intentionally break their refrigerator so they wouldn't have to buy a water trough.
Posted by jawnybnsc
Greer, SC
Member since Dec 2016
5998 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 9:09 am to
Or, it could be taken as evidence that the left has utterly destroyed black families and black communities with their ignorant and short sighted policies.
Posted by dickkellog
little rock
Member since Dec 2024
2908 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 9:11 am to
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I’m from New Mexico and there’s no way we rank 51 out of all 52 US states.


don't sell yourself short kid, new mexico is a real schit stain of state.
Posted by mtb010
San Antonio
Member since Sep 2009
6578 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 9:19 am to
I should have followed my heart and moved to Wyoming years ago.
Posted by FATBOY TIGER
Valhalla
Member since Jan 2016
13146 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 9:22 am to
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Texas 36


My property taxes tell me, Texas should be in the top 3.
Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2012
42075 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 9:27 am to
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I’m from New Mexico and there’s no way we rank 51 out of all 52 US states


I believe it. Shithole state
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