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re: The level of naivety regarding the Iranian conflict is disturbing
Posted on 6/18/25 at 12:14 pm to somethingdifferent
Posted on 6/18/25 at 12:14 pm to somethingdifferent
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I would be willing to listen to this
It's a really simple plan. We expel them all from our country and we stay out of their countries.
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 12:15 pm to somethingdifferent
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, Islamic terrorism was born AFTER America became a nation
You clearly don't know the history of suicide bombing
Posted on 6/18/25 at 12:16 pm to somethingdifferent
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Yes it does genius
I knew it.
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Stop being obtuse, as usual
Upset I predicted your dishonest rhetoric from the outset, I see.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 12:16 pm to somethingdifferent
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WHEW. That's a relief!! I'm so glad they can't do anything to us. I was worried there for minute
Iran is a threat to Israel and others in that region. They are of zero threat to us and are inept as hell and likely couldn't/can't carry out most of their threats against their neighbors.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 12:17 pm to lsu777
quote:Ditto. But, riddle me this. If Iran is not pursuing a nuke, why spend all the money to build Fordow? If you only want nuclear power, which takes 3-4% enriched uranium???
because i was in when they said the same shite about iraq.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 12:18 pm to Crowknowsbest
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Based on available info, this is a good opportunity to KO Iran’s nuclear ability without having to commit ground forces to the fight, do any nation-building, etc. It’s probably wise to take that opportunity rather than wait on Iran to get its shite back together or press for a higher degree of nuclear capability.
This is where I’m at too. I don’t want to be involved with this either but I doubt Iran is going to take us off the shite list just because we don’t actively participate at this point.
Of all the shite we’ve been involved with in the ME Iran is probably the most deserving as they’ve been fricking with everyone either directly or via proxy since the Carter era. Supporting Hamas and the Houthis doesn’t help and their insistence on getting a nuclear weapon have put them in the bullseye.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 12:18 pm to Harry Boutte
quote:I addressed this in the OP
How can YOU be so naive?
quote:What about it was false? NO ONE has bothered to address the fact of Islamic terrorism
Your OP is a beautiful piece of fear-mongering propaganda
quote:You are talking about an EFFECT of the situation. Not the CAUSE - Islamic terrorism
fear-mongering propaganda has been used to erode protections of our rights
quote:What does this have to do with a centuries' old religious belief? Nothing
We meddle in other countries' internal affairs, we demand other countries acquiescence to our economic model, and we foment revolution and sponsor terrorism when our national security interests (really our national corporate interests) are threatened.
quote:Oh my word here it is again. Those poor desert terrorists. If only we gave them jobs and water. They would stop attacking the infidels like they've done for several hundred years.
They are trying to protect their people from the sinfulness that we require of other nations
It's like a portion of our country has become brainwashed
I'll say this again, the khawarij mentality attacks ANYTHING that doesn't conform. This has been a debate raging in Islam for CENTURIES. They have no qualms with attacking Muslims who resist. If they are willing to kill Muslims, they certainly have no problem killing infidels. They hate moderate, peaceful Muslims just as much as they hate you. You will never negotiate with them. You will never convert them. You will never pacify them. You will never reason with them. They are not "nuanced." They are not an effect of the modern west. Until people understand this, they will always say the stupid things that are being said itt
Posted on 6/18/25 at 12:20 pm to lsu777
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you are naive as frick
I'm the one educating people on Islam itt
Again, tell me what I said that's false
Posted on 6/18/25 at 12:20 pm to Seldom Seen
quote:The first part is a discussion starter. The second part is naive
We expel them all from our country and we stay out of their countries
Posted on 6/18/25 at 12:21 pm to RollTide4547
You missed a few pieces again. You must be holding a baby or something. Here's the entire post you're attempting to respond to. Thanks again for the opportunity to clarify...
"Well I'm not apologizing for jackshit. I don't apologize for an opinion, but in no uncertain terms, I'll gladly admit I was wrong. Gladly.
I voted for him for two reasons. Close the border and keep us out of war for a four year period. If he does those two things, he's met my expectations"
"Well I'm not apologizing for jackshit. I don't apologize for an opinion, but in no uncertain terms, I'll gladly admit I was wrong. Gladly.
I voted for him for two reasons. Close the border and keep us out of war for a four year period. If he does those two things, he's met my expectations"
Posted on 6/18/25 at 12:22 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Upset I predicted your dishonest rhetoric from the outset
Let me know when you produce that 14th amendment language that's "hidden" in there You realize why terrorist attacks matter in regards to the Iran conflict, right?
Of course not, you're about to launch into 50 pages of bullcrap to skirt the issue. Because you have Asperger's
Posted on 6/18/25 at 12:22 pm to ronricks
quote:Naive
They are of zero threat to us
Posted on 6/18/25 at 12:27 pm to somethingdifferent
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You either fight these fights on American soil or abroad. You don't get the option of "staying out of it." Eventually, these conflicts will reach domestic shores if we are passive
What are you going to say when this iteration of the conflict ends in a “deal” with these terrorists?
You’ve identified a problem. Based on recent experience or just instinct, many people think toppling a government of 90 million people will make the problem you’ve identified worse. And nearly all people don’t think eliminating 90 million people is an option for this problem.
Attempting a sky coup in Iran in 2025 because of terrorism is truly idiotic.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 12:28 pm to somethingdifferent
Israel is responsible for defending themselves.
I don’t see any obvious imminent threat to the US and most would agree there is none.
What is happening is that Israel is asking for us to get involved in their threat from Iran.
All we should be considering is sales of weaponry to Israel
And fwiw- Russia, North Korea, Pakistani and maybe a few other problem countries have Nukes yet we don’t do anything to them…north Korea is a very serious wild card too.
I don’t see any obvious imminent threat to the US and most would agree there is none.
What is happening is that Israel is asking for us to get involved in their threat from Iran.
All we should be considering is sales of weaponry to Israel
And fwiw- Russia, North Korea, Pakistani and maybe a few other problem countries have Nukes yet we don’t do anything to them…north Korea is a very serious wild card too.
This post was edited on 6/18/25 at 1:14 pm
Posted on 6/18/25 at 12:29 pm to Pandy Fackler
quote:Not holding one, but do seem to be conversing with one.
You must be holding a baby or something.
So again, he's too much of a coward to apologize. Seems to be a big deal to you, but not so to me. I'd never expect more from a coward. Please resume mating yourself.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 12:31 pm to RollTide4547
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Ditto. But, riddle me this. If Iran is not pursuing a nuke, why spend all the money to build Fordow? If you only want nuclear power, which takes 3-4% enriched uranium???
like i said, im good using the bunker busters and bombing them so long as its not boots on the ground
my point was more the BS the OP was spouting and calling everyone naive. we have heard everything he is spouting about previous conflicts.
if we want to bomb and take out the facilities and even take out the regime...im ok with it, i actually trust trump on this one. but if they want boots on the ground, imo they should have to declare war, get a vote of yes by congress just like the constitution says.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 12:33 pm to somethingdifferent
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You realize why terrorist attacks matter in regards to the Iran conflict, right?
When was the last Iranian attack in one of the 50 states?
Posted on 6/18/25 at 12:34 pm to somethingdifferent
Can we just bomb it multiple times till we reach it and get it over with?
Posted on 6/18/25 at 12:37 pm to SlowFlowPro
Ramzi bin al shibh ring a bell? He is from Yemen which is heavily funded by Iran. He has been connected to several terrorist attacks on the US
Posted on 6/18/25 at 12:38 pm to somethingdifferent
Odd
This post was edited on 6/18/25 at 12:45 pm
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