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re: The level of naivety regarding the Iranian conflict is disturbing

Posted on 6/18/25 at 12:39 pm to
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
16487 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 12:39 pm to
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The level of naivety regarding the Iranian conflict is disturbing


It's brain washing by the progressives.
Posted by FTBLFN
Nashville, TN
Member since Jan 2010
5446 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 12:40 pm to
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Tell me what I said that's not factual


When is the last time a foreign enemy executed military operations on US soil?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477219 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 12:40 pm to
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Ramzi bin al shibh ring a bell? He is from Yemen which is heavily funded by Iran.

Saudi Arabia has a lot of proxies in Yemen, too. That's why Iran and SA go to war there so often.

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He has been connected to several terrorist attacks on the US

I see 911 and AQ ties, which screams Saudi influence, not Iranian.

I didn't ask the last time we could link SA to an attack within a US state.
This post was edited on 6/18/25 at 12:42 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477219 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 12:41 pm to
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Since they showed their arse during the election about how Trump could never win, and that we needed to go in a different direction, Every Single Post is trying to regain e-cred


laughs in Sir Winston, John Barron, and GumboPot
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
34286 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 12:41 pm to
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The level of naivety

Its not naivety. Its intentional

Since they showed their arse during the election about how Trump could never win, and that we needed to go a different direction, Every Single Post is trying to regain e-cred

Its a strange condition. One in which their anonymous opinions on a message board are more important than the real success of the entire nation. It is an actual sickness. Trump Derangement Syndrome

And politicians have it worse. They have to destroy Trump. Otherwise everyday Americans can use him as a guide in how not to be a career politician and still be effective in govt

Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
34286 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 12:43 pm to
Odd. How did you reply to my post before I even posted it?

Chicken?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477219 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 12:43 pm to
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Odd. How did you reply to my post before I even posted it?

You posted the same thing twice, 3 minutes apart.

Look on the last page
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
27200 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 12:43 pm to
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If they were innocent, they would have rebelled against the Islamic regime.


Agree with most of your post. Sure there are a lot in Iran that support the regime. But it is true that they have almost been overthrown a couple of times. When the people in power have the guns it takes a lot to topple them.

Did you rise up against the illegitimate Biden presidency? Well don't be so harsh on those that have actually done more than you!
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
157977 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 12:44 pm to
TDS- Trump Defender Syndrome
Posted by Sharlo
Van down by the river.
Member since Oct 2021
1636 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 12:44 pm to
It’s 2003 all over again. Amazing how well so many of you are being played like a fiddle.

The neocons and MIC have been screaming about Iran’s nuclear ambitions since the 80s. What’s changed in the past week?

After all the WMD deceptions, how can you all so easily lap up the propaganda? At least demand more conclusive evidence and investigation instead of lining up like a bunch of sheep.

It’s the same people telling the same lies.

Same playbook and same outcome.

How do you not see it?
Posted by 5WFSHR
Montgomery, AL
Member since Apr 2024
2619 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 12:44 pm to
Is not backing Israel about having pride in Trump or sound policy?
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
34286 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 12:46 pm to
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You posted the same thing twice, 3 minutes apart.

3 minutes seems like an awful long delay for a double post
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
27200 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 12:47 pm to
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Is not backing Israel about having pride in Trump


I don't think this makes sense. Trump is in support of Israel... so how does not supporting Trump lead to having pride in Trump???
Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
4723 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 12:50 pm to
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lsu777
We agree.
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
3996 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 12:58 pm to
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I addressed this in the OP

No, you didn't address at all how you could be so naive.
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What about it was false?

If you had read my entire post, like I read your entire OP diatribe, you would have seen the answer to the question you keep asking over and over.
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You are talking about an EFFECT of the situation. Not the CAUSE - Islamic terrorism

You are wrong. The erosion of our Constitutionally protected rights began before Islamic terrorism.
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What does this have to do with a centuries' old religious belief?

I addressed it in my post. You should really read a post in its entirety before starting to comment on it - like I did yours.
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Oh my word

Oh, so you're a fricking pearl-clutcher.
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If only we gave them jobs and water. They would stop attacking the infidels

I addressed that in my post. They don't want our jobs or water. They don't want ANYTHING from us. But we don't care, we try to force it on them anyway.
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It's like a portion of our country has become brainwashed

On this we agree. It seems like it's the same types of people that fall for the fear-mongering over and over again.
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I'll say this again, the khawarij mentality attacks ANYTHING that doesn't conform. This has been a debate raging in Islam for CENTURIES. They have no qualms with attacking Muslims who resist. If they are willing to kill Muslims, they certainly have no problem killing infidels. They hate moderate, peaceful Muslims just as much as they hate you. You will never negotiate with them. You will never convert them. You will never pacify them. You will never reason with them. They are not "nuanced." They are not an effect of the modern west.


Then we should just leave them the frick alone, and stop meddling in the internal affairs of sovereign nations.
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Until people understand this, they will always say the stupid things that are being said itt

Indeed.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38076 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 12:59 pm to
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We agree.




im not even against what the OP was saying...it was more his thought that the rest of us are just naive and he is the only smart one. How dare someone have a different opinion.

yet people like you and I have already been through this and have been used as political pawns last time.

it just annoyed the frick out of me.

now i will say...i do not feel that iran is a big enough threat that i would be willing to sacrifice my own life or my kids life so i am not going to ask another parent to sacrifice their kid nor ask someone to sacrifice their own life.

now a very low risk mission like bombing runs when control of the air has already been established...im ok with like I said.

:cheers:
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
68500 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 1:00 pm to
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It’s 2003 all over again


Except the fact modern warfare is 100% different than 2003 and not a single troop has to step foot in Iran. If we even get to a war.

The media is being used to parrot the "US strikes are imminent" talking point to pressure Iran into negotiating
Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
4723 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 1:02 pm to
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When is the last time a foreign enemy executed military operations on US soil?
Define military operations first.

I consider 911 or any other terrorist activity to be military operations. To me the riots over ICE are coordinated operations by an enemy of America.

Others might say it has to be a military force. In that case, the last time would be in the aleutian islands by the Japanese in WWII.
Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
4723 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 1:03 pm to
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.i do not feel that iran is a big enough threat that i would be willing to sacrifice my own life or my kids life
I wouldn't trade one American life for all of the muslims in the world.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38076 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 1:14 pm to
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I wouldn't trade one American life for all of the muslims in the world.



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