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re: The level of naivety regarding the Iranian conflict is disturbing

Posted on 6/18/25 at 3:08 pm to
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
50542 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 3:08 pm to
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somethingdifferent



you're just spewing MSM bullshite and claiming they are facts


the stupid emotions are from you, you're a spoiled little bitch warmonger supporter, and you come across like a video game "warrior"


I know, because I drank the dipshit koolaid from GW Bush back in 2003 on Iraq, and I was an idiot for doing it. I finally saw the light. You're the same way, and you're bearing down on stupid.


the biggest state sponsors of terrorism in the Middle East are the govts of Israel and Saudi Arabia (tied at the hip)


Posted by mule74
Watersound Beach
Member since Nov 2004
12861 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 3:09 pm to
The level of naivety regarding the negative effects of US overseas intervention since WWII is disturbing.

This time will be different …
This time it’s necessary…
Smoking gun …. Mushroom cloud …

Libya seems great. Iraq seems great. Syria seems great.

I’m sure destabilizing a country of 90 million people which is 10x the size of Libya won’t have any negative orders of magnitude.
This post was edited on 6/18/25 at 3:16 pm
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
37588 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 3:38 pm to
Or a troll given the overly simplistic Sean Hannity type of reasons.
Posted by TigerBaitOohHaHa
Member since Jan 2023
2075 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 4:34 pm to
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Here are the nine countries with nuclear weapons. Russia, The United States, China, France, The United Kingdom, Pakistan, India, Israel, and North Korea.



There is a very stark difference between Iran and all of these other countries. We have lived under the sense of safety that is brought by "Mutually Assured Destruction". They won't use their nukes because they will get nuked in return. Islamist states have shown us that they don't care if they die for their cause. They have 40 virgins or some shite waiting for them on the other side. They are glad when their children die as "martyrs" .... They do not value life in the same way the other countries do. That makes them uniquely terrifying to me.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
19499 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 4:37 pm to
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Islamist states have shown us that they don't care if they die for their cause.


They don't care if their peons die. The people at the top of the food chain care a great deal about not dying. you don't see those at the top strapping on the suicide vests.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70791 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 4:39 pm to
Correct and it’s no surprise the doomsday pushers on this topic are lefty’s.
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1940 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 4:42 pm to
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What are you going to say when this iteration of the conflict ends in a “deal” with these terrorists?
Depends on the deal but if it is part of the mitigation strategy, then I'm all for it. Whatever continues to fight terrorism and keep them at bay - over there
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1940 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 4:43 pm to
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I don’t see any obvious imminent threat to the US and most would agree there is none
This is still naive no matter how many times it gets restated

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their threat from Iran
OUR threat from Iran

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Russia, North Korea, Pakistani and maybe a few other problem countries have Nukes yet we don’t do anything to them
I've already addressed this comment
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1940 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 4:44 pm to
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the BS the OP was spouting
It's astonishing. People say crap like this but can't refute the facts

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we have heard everything he is spouting about previous conflicts
Was it true then like it is now?
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1940 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 4:45 pm to
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When was the last Iranian attack in one of the 50 states?


What an idiotic question. I bet you don't even know why it's idiotic even after reading this thread and it being addressed about 50 times already
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1940 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 4:46 pm to
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When is the last time a foreign enemy executed military operations on US soil?
What does this have to do with Islamic terrorism?

Besides, what you're saying is that because something hasn't happened, well let's just let our guard down and relax. If you're not saying that, then you agree with the posture of the OP
Posted by TigerBaitOohHaHa
Member since Jan 2023
2075 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 4:47 pm to
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The people at the top of the food chain care a great deal about not dying


Fine, they don't care about their own people--which is why they will give the orders from their penthouse in Moscow. Doesn't make me any less nuked. Point still stands
This post was edited on 6/18/25 at 4:48 pm
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1940 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 4:47 pm to
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I see 911 and AQ ties, which screams Saudi influence, not Iranian
Yeah, you're right. The Iranians don't really have anything to do with Islamic terrorism. I was WAY off
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1940 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 4:49 pm to
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How did you reply to my post before I even posted it?
Yeah, I noticed that

How does that happen

CHICKEN. SHOW YOURSELF
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1940 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 4:51 pm to
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Did you rise up against the illegitimate Biden presidency?
I did my part

Besides, as stupid as he is, we weren't lobbing hundreds of missiles at civilian targets
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1940 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 4:52 pm to
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The neocons and MIC have been screaming about Iran’s nuclear ambitions since the 80s. What’s changed in the past week?
Why do people keep posting the same already refuted points over and over
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 4:52 pm to
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Yeah, you're right. The Iranians don't really have anything to do with Islamic terrorism. I was WAY off


We ( the CIA) created most Islamic terror groups.

Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1940 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 4:58 pm to
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No, you didn't address at all how you could be so naive
The OP is showing precisely how to not be naive, as opposed to naively burying your head in the sand about the real world

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If you had read my entire post, like I read your entire OP diatribe, you would have seen the answer to the question you keep asking over and over
Let me know when you have an actual response

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You are wrong. The erosion of our Constitutionally protected rights began before Islamic terrorism
What does this have to do with the fact that we have enemies we should protect ourselves from?

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I addressed it in my post. You should really read a post in its entirety before starting to comment on it - like I did yours
Let me know when you have an answer

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Oh, so you're a fricking pearl-clutcher
I stated facts in the OP. America has enemies. It's reality

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They don't want ANYTHING from us
That's not true. They want us to die

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But we don't care, we try to force it on them anyway
You're not suggesting this is why they attack us, are you? If not, what's your point?

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fear-mongering
It is not fear mongering that the US has real enemies. My word

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Then we should just leave them the frick alone, and stop meddling in the internal affairs of sovereign nations
Sigh. You can't actually believe this will somehow cure the khawarij from attacking infidels, do you?
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1940 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 5:00 pm to
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you're just spewing MSM bullshite and claiming they are facts
Name them

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the stupid emotions are from you
It is a fact that the US has enemies. Apparently you're too dull to understand that

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you're a spoiled little bitch warmonger supporter
Nope

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I drank the dipshit koolaid from GW Bush back in 2003 on Iraq
Iraq had WMDs

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the biggest state sponsors of terrorism in the Middle East are the govts of Israel and Saudi Arabia (tied at the hip)
That changes nothing about the current Iran situation
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1940 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 5:02 pm to
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The level of naivety regarding the negative effects of US overseas intervention since WWII is disturbing
Addressed in the OP

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Libya seems great. Iraq seems great. Syria seems great
Can you prove that US actions in those areas had NO positive impact on Islamic terrorism? No, you can't

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I’m sure destabilizing a country of 90 million people which is 10x the size of Libya won’t have any negative orders of magnitude
You don't think that would hinder the Iranian govt from funding and organizing terrorists? Of course it would. Don't be obtuse like SFP
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