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re: The economy is soooooo terrible
Posted on 9/21/26 at 9:58 am to ronricks
Posted on 9/21/26 at 9:58 am to ronricks
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FLTech
Americans' collective credit card debt stands at $1.26 trillion, remaining near the all-time high of $1.28 trillion set in late 2025
What's your credit card debt?
My credit score is around 800 but I hold zero credit card debt and haven't had even a penny of high interest debt since 2006. My net worth (though not astronomical by any means) greatly exceeds my sum debt burden.
What does it prove? Nothing except that, unlike my government and most Americans, I'm a staunch fiscal conservative in practice as well as ideology, and I've been remotely prudent in expenditures and the application of coin.
Posted on 9/21/26 at 9:58 am to UtahCajun
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SUV and pickup truck on 5-8 year payments.
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Why do the lazy always revert to the same anecdotal evidence.
It's not anecdotal. The sources are Experian credit ratings and Edmunds car publications. Q1 2026 buyers of new and used cars aaverage 67-70 month loans. A full 1/3 of buyers are over 72 month and 1/5 are over 80 months. APR is 7 percent.
That means the average buyer spends $10,000 on interest given prevailing car prices and interest rates. The average car price is now $44,000.
Again all this per Edmunds and Experian so nothing anecdotal here.
Posted on 9/21/26 at 10:00 am to FLTech
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You are brainwashed.
You really said this in the same post with a White House graph of cherry-picked examples of price changes lol. Can't make this stuff up!
This post was edited on 9/21/26 at 10:18 am
Posted on 9/21/26 at 10:22 am to Patato Salad
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You really said this in the same post with a White House graph of cherry-picked examples of price changes lol. Can't make this stuff up!
Then you need to fight a poster without a shite reputation to challenge him on it.
Posted on 9/21/26 at 10:33 am to ronricks
Excuse me.......................I'm no evangelist savior, but taking the Lords' name in vain does not look good on you. I'm not perfect, but go look in the mirror and sit in judgement on yourself. Real men wouldn't and won't do what you did in this post.
You just spoke to your true mentality.
You just spoke to your true mentality.
Posted on 9/21/26 at 10:37 am to FLTech
Really? The Will Cain Show?
That’s the problem with Feaux News right there. You’ll hear and see stories like this on a few shows, Cain, Ingraham, Hannity, and the Five. You won’t hear and see stories about good news for Trump on fair and balanced Brett Baier or any of the blonde haired blue eyed bimboes Feaux News trots out as news journalists. They are simply never Trump eye candy for retired boomers.
That’s the problem with Feaux News right there. You’ll hear and see stories like this on a few shows, Cain, Ingraham, Hannity, and the Five. You won’t hear and see stories about good news for Trump on fair and balanced Brett Baier or any of the blonde haired blue eyed bimboes Feaux News trots out as news journalists. They are simply never Trump eye candy for retired boomers.
Posted on 9/21/26 at 11:00 am to GreatLakesTiger24
quote:Part of the referenced masses?
Housing is currently more affordable than at any point in the 3 1/2 decades between 1972 and 2007.
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Posted on 9/21/26 at 11:11 am to ronricks
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Americans' collective credit card debt stands at $1.26 trillion, remaining near the all-time high of $1.28 trillion set in late 2025
Terrible spending habits and money management are NOT a reflection or function of the economy.
People today are simply demonstrably dumber and have a high demand for instant gratification.
Posted on 9/21/26 at 11:15 am to FLTech
nice meaningless metrics. Guess i should just ignore the fact that gas, groceries and utilities are all up and my paycheck doesnt go as far as it used to because the poverty rate is down... oh boy I love a good golden age
Posted on 9/21/26 at 11:21 am to Laugh More
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A lot of red meat on this troll job
And assuming our pals in Iran continue their dangerous path
they just might solve our growing poverty problem for all of us - they'll just
destroy us with a salvo of nuclear tipped hypersonic missiles. Best
we can hope is they're tactical.
Islamic zealots are capable of bad stuff........really bad.
But, better fed, than dead, eh?
This post was edited on 9/21/26 at 11:31 am
Posted on 9/21/26 at 11:24 am to ronricks
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Driven by lack of personal control over their finances.
Fixed it for you, just because youre poor doesnt mean you need CCs with 30% interest. Its called living within your means, something most Americans cannot grasp.
Posted on 9/21/26 at 11:31 am to FLTech
We have the richest poor people in the world. People are literally risking their lives by the millions to come here illegally to be poor in the U.S.
Posted on 9/21/26 at 11:52 am to PorkSammich
Right, we should pay more taxes and have a bimbo like Kamala Harris directing policy. That’s got to be the winning formula.
Posted on 9/21/26 at 11:57 am to BrohemAlem11
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nice meaningless metrics. Guess i should just ignore the fact that gas, groceries and utilities are all up and my paycheck doesnt go as far as it used to because the poverty rate is down... oh boy I love a good golden age
I gave you all kinds of meaningful metrics a page back.
Posted on 9/21/26 at 12:48 pm to GeorgePaton
Is this like a counter troll to me calling out a funny troll on trolling?? 
Posted on 9/21/26 at 12:55 pm to wackatimesthree
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I gave you all kinds of meaningful metrics a page back.
No one is citing this crisis based on metrics, they are doing so based on how much of their check if left over after getting groceries, gas paying utilities etc and in that regard we are worse off. You can't point to a graph good or bad and say THIS is the source of truth on this issue..the source of truth is the family budget.
I voted for Trump enthusiastically, but he has objectively done nothing for affordability.
Objectively, a much larger portion of my paycheck goes to groceries despite no real change in consumption. I have also cut out 1-2 restaurant meals a week and have not seen a meaningful impact on cash on hand... it more got me back to baseline. Also, many people note that going to a simple resturant or activity is becoming more and more unaffordable.
all that to say you can post 80 pages of graphs supporting that this is a scam, and that will never make it true. In trumps first term I saw tangible relief I didnt need graphs to tell me he was doing great things for the economy, this term has gone the other direction
Posted on 9/21/26 at 12:59 pm to FLTech
Income may be up, but not as high as Inflation.
Posted on 9/21/26 at 1:01 pm to FLTech
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You are brainwashed. Now does it make sense why Trump kicked MSCNN out of the White House? Your brain is filled with fake news propaganda
You say this, and then you post fake news propaganda to follow it up.
Your image cherry picks only certain foods while ignoring any/all that don't have a decrease.
It also so desperate for content that it includes multiple items that are effectively no real change at all.
It includes 4 years of Biden compared to less than 2 years of Trump. AND Trump was responsible for around half the increases during Biden.
You are fake news.
Posted on 9/21/26 at 1:12 pm to BrohemAlem11
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No one is citing this crisis based on metrics, they are doing so based on how much of their check if left over after getting groceries, gas paying utilities etc and in that regard we are worse off. You can't point to a graph good or bad and say THIS is the source of truth on this issue..the source of truth is the family budget. I voted for Trump enthusiastically, but he has objectively done nothing for affordability. Objectively, a much larger portion of my paycheck goes to groceries despite no real change in consumption. I have also cut out 1-2 restaurant meals a week and have not seen a meaningful impact on cash on hand... it more got me back to baseline. Also, many people note that going to a simple resturant or activity is becoming more and more unaffordable. all that to say you can post 80 pages of graphs supporting that this is a scam, and that will never make it true. In trumps first term I saw tangible relief I didnt need graphs to tell me he was doing great things for the economy, this term has gone the other direction
You could’ve saved all of those words and just said, “my feelings don’t care about any facts.”
You realize you’re making the exact same argument as a guy with a dick and balls who insists he is a woman, right?
No offense, but you are exactly what is wrong with this country.
This post was edited on 9/21/26 at 2:53 pm
Posted on 9/21/26 at 1:20 pm to Laugh More
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Is this like a counter troll to me calling out a funny troll on trolling??
Not really - more like a realization on my part as to the growing threat of nuclear war and my trying to warn people about this real threat. That's why countries (including USA and Russia) were entering into all these nuclear non-proliferation treaties. Trying to head off a dangerous trend? That was always the great danger in this nuclear bomb thing. We can agree to disagree on economic, political, and even religious issues but a nuclear warhead delivered by a hypersonic missile ends the debate immediately. Especially a nuke bomb fashioned by an Islamic regime who believes that if you die at the hands of the cursed "infidels" 72 virgins await you in paradise. NOT good.
How dangerous is this threat? Well in my research I learned the time it would take a hypersonic missile to travel from Russia (former USSR) to a target on the East Coast would be only 30 minutes.
Presumably a little longer from Iran to the USA. But your response did remind me to apologize for my attempt at morbid humor when I said - Better fed, than dead, eh? I apologize.
Thank you for your response to my post.
Elections have consequences.
This post was edited on 9/21/26 at 3:13 pm
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