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re: The economy is soooooo terrible

Posted on 9/21/26 at 3:05 pm to
Posted by Laugh More
Member since Jan 2022
4299 posts
Posted on 9/21/26 at 3:05 pm to
Hey, George, no worries.

In the end we all need to:
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Laugh More

Posted by GeorgePaton
God's Country
Member since May 2017
6065 posts
Posted on 9/21/26 at 3:21 pm to


Sure, but I don't recall reading anything about the people in Hiroshima and Nagaski laughing after them bombs destroying their city. Peeling burned skin off your body is like not my favorite idea of a pleasant experience.

But you be sure and vote for your favorite democrat candidate this November. Naw, you're right nuclear annialation could never happen here in America.

.....and and 9/11 was one big fake orchestrated Warner Brothers production.

This post was edited on 9/21/26 at 3:24 pm
Posted by Laugh More
Member since Jan 2022
4299 posts
Posted on 9/21/26 at 3:30 pm to
Take you a gander at my post history and let me know if I ever plan to vote for a democrat ever

Yikes, what ever gave you that impression?
Posted by BrohemAlem11
Ratchet City, LA
Member since Oct 2014
14056 posts
Posted on 9/21/26 at 3:32 pm to
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You realize you’re making the exact same argument as a guy with a dick and balls who insists he is a woman, right?



how?

I have hard evidence that gas, groceries and utilities are higher. I have hard evidence that going out to eat, outings in general and vacations are less affordable. A tranny has no facts that support they are the wrong gender.

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“my feelings don’t care about any facts.”


What I'm saying is that those facts do not align with my reality, and there are many americans who would agree.

Can you point to objective things Trump has done to provide tax breaks, lower the price of gas or lower groceries paired with evidence that they have worked?
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
71439 posts
Posted on 9/21/26 at 3:40 pm to
The main thing that will help is gdp and wage growth outpacing inflation. Affordability is somewhat of a lagging indicator, however. It’ll take several quarters in a row of solid growth in both gdp and wages before people start “feeling” wealthier or like the costs of living have gone down relative to their wages. Growth this quarter has looked great, and wage growth appears promising. If Trump manages to string several more quarters like this together, perhaps we’ll even have ourselves a nice little economic boom. However, until then, the middle and lower classes will continue feeling squeezed by high food, housing, insurance, and healthcare prices, even as conditions start gradually improving.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
15256 posts
Posted on 9/21/26 at 4:10 pm to
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I have hard evidence that gas, groceries and utilities are higher.


Higher than what? When?

I just posted actual hard evidence that says that groceries have seldom been cheaper than they are now and gas is up, but has been higher for a sustained period twice in the 2000s.

I didn't post anything about utilities, but I can look that up too if you like.

If you're only talking about within the past year or something, well fricking boo-hoo. Prices cycle. A five year window is a short one when considering these things.

Whining about that is like crying because every day isn't better than the one before. Life doesn't work that way. Economic cycles don't work that way. They go up and they go down.

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I have hard evidence that going out to eat, outings in general and vacations are less affordable.


Those are fricking luxuries. You're bent out of shape because non-essential luxuries cost more (according to you...I'd have to fact check that before I conceded it since you are still claiming groceries are higher when I have proven to you that they are not, unless you're talking about a silly-short time frame for comparison)?

The fricking entitlement.

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there are many americans who would agree.


I know they would agree. But not because it's true. Because they keep being fed this victim narrative. The facts are that Americans STILL, after all of this "affordability crisis," STILL have more disposable income than ever before.

Since 1970 (always) adjusted for inflation, Americans have 181% more disposable income, which is up 1% since last year.

What that means—since you don't seem to be able to figure it out—is that yeah, in the very short term, gas is up (but not at an all time high in your lifetime), rent is up, real home prices are up the past five years, but that's because they were low as hell for five years compared to just about any other time in the past 55 years, and groceries are slightly cheaper than just about any time in the past 50 years or so.

But you also have more money than you did 10, 20, 30, 40, and 50 years ago to buy stuff. By a lot.

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Can you point to objective things Trump has done to provide tax breaks, lower the price of gas or lower groceries paired with evidence that they have worked?


I'm a conservative, so under all but abnormal circumstances I'm not the least bit interested in government doing anything but getting the hell out of the way when it comes to the economy. I've always been against the tariffs because they are the opposite of getting the hell out of the way, but if your beef is Trump, you knew he was going to meddle in the economy when you voted for him.

And there's a reason that conservatives are against government meddling in the economy. Because history shows the economy works (much) better without the meddling.

Sounds like you might only think you're a populist. You might actually be a conservative.

If you can pull yourself up to the point of wanting to elect someone to protect your rights and property while staying out of everything else in your life instead of electing someone to "fix things" for you or rig the system in your favor, welcome aboard. The few of us left will be glad to have you.
Posted by Prodigal Son
Member since May 2023
2021 posts
Posted on 9/21/26 at 5:25 pm to
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Is that why grocery prices are so high? After all, the poverty level is at an all time low which does suggest increased demand, right?

Yes. We’re still feeding an extra 30 million since 2020
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