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re: Texas Democrats’ late-night walkout scuppers Republican efforts to restrict voting rights

Posted on 5/31/21 at 9:20 am to
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
66950 posts
Posted on 5/31/21 at 9:20 am to
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Poorer people can’t just walk out of their jobs whenever they want to go vote or they will be fired.

Evidently you just listen to rhetoric spewed on CNN and don't know the law or real life.
Companies are required to allow their employees time off to go vote. They will not fire anyone who goes to vote.
Please quit listening to CNN talking heads who sit around and make up shite
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
77899 posts
Posted on 5/31/21 at 9:23 am to
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Poorer people can’t just walk out of their jobs whenever they want to go vote or they will be fired. 
You are making shite up. You're telling me that they can't early vote like in the past or before or after work with the old regular voting hours?
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
130370 posts
Posted on 5/31/21 at 9:24 am to
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Translation: African Americans are too stupid and too poor to vote in the manner and time prescribed by law. Who's the racist here Froman?

Typical talking point

Republicans in this state clearly want to attempt to shrink the electorate with these bills. They cannot handle more people regardless of race voting considering that Democrats were 5 seats away from getting the majority in the house in TX after this past election. If fewer young and elderly people are encouraged to vote, then that gives Republicans a better chance at winning future elections. Democrats are not the ones trying to gain a competitive advantage in the elections here
Posted by swolverine
Member since Jun 2020
1966 posts
Posted on 5/31/21 at 9:28 am to
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Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 5/31/21 at 9:32 am to
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Democrats are not the ones trying to gain a competitive advantage in the elections here


What? Even if what you posted is true (it's not), walking out is maintaining their competitive advantage. It's basic logic.
Posted by 1BIGTigerFan
100,000 posts
Member since Jan 2007
55114 posts
Posted on 5/31/21 at 9:38 am to
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So let me get this straight...you have issues with state legislatures fortifying the state rules, that all have to abide by, to prevent fraud in non-election years, but no problem with election rules being changed on the fly by people not legally able to, months prior to a major presidential election??

This about sums it up for all dims.
Posted by FlyingTiger1955
Member since Jan 2019
5765 posts
Posted on 5/31/21 at 10:00 am to
I assume that you would want to retain the filibuster then since it protects minority rights and prevents a majority from ramming through legislation at the expense of the minority.
Posted by Tigerhalen
Member since May 2020
982 posts
Posted on 5/31/21 at 10:02 am to
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The republican logic is to make sure those kind of people can’t make it to the polls before they close, and can’t vote by mail.

No, the “Republican logic” is to make sure the person for whom the mail-in ballot was sent is actually doing the voting.
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30152 posts
Posted on 5/31/21 at 10:03 am to
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How could it have been "all but guaranteed to reach Abbott's desk" when this Democrat walkout was surely a known possibility from the jump??

Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
45195 posts
Posted on 5/31/21 at 10:06 am to
See y’all Dems in the September Special Session.
Posted by SEC. 593
Chicago
Member since Aug 2012
4346 posts
Posted on 5/31/21 at 10:07 am to
I believe the argument would be that urban/lower income areas don't have a porportional numbers of voting precincts, which in turn leads to longer lines as opposed to suburban areas. The drive-thru & after-hours voting allows for easier, faster, and wider access to these areas.

I can see the argument for after-hours voting, but don't see why a drive-thru voting set-up should be prohibited.
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6-- the Brazos River Valley
Member since Sep 2015
30594 posts
Posted on 5/31/21 at 10:20 am to
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you would want to retain the filibuster

Most definitely.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
53592 posts
Posted on 5/31/21 at 10:38 am to
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Even if this were true, what does it have to do with race?
black and brown people are more likely to be poor
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
15595 posts
Posted on 5/31/21 at 1:48 pm to
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I read the bill.
Does it make voting more difficult? No.
Does it make cheating more difficult? Yes.

Therefore, if you are against the bill you are in favor of cheating. This is why the Dems are so fervently against the bill. It's not complicated at all.


I don't disagree with most of your points. But what's the harm in permitting drive-thru voting and 24-hour polling centers? By prohibiting these rather than embracing them, Republicans are fueling the narrative that they are attempting to restrict voting rights.

If Republicans want the high ground on election integrity, they should embrace more voting access such as these provisions.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
116669 posts
Posted on 5/31/21 at 1:54 pm to
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But what's the harm in permitting drive-thru voting and 24-hour polling centers?


I've explained the method of cheating before. Will try to keep it short.
The people inside the polling precincts are in on the deal. They know who has voted and who has not, on the big book. The cheating must come late. You will know who has not shown up and the cheaters come in and fill in the blanks.
That's why swing states go Dem very late. And it's why Dem precincts have 100% turnout when that's impossible.
Posted by Patch
Westlake, TX
Member since Jan 2010
2661 posts
Posted on 5/31/21 at 2:00 pm to
Why don’t the republicans just act like democrats and just vote on it and pass it through even if they’re not there. Who gives a shite at this point??? They walk all over the constitution and our laws every day. Why are republicans still trying to play by the rules. JUST DO IT!!!!
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
15595 posts
Posted on 5/31/21 at 2:07 pm to
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I've explained the method of cheating before. Will try to keep it short.
The people inside the polling precincts are in on the deal. They know who has voted and who has not, on the big book. The cheating must come late. You will know who has not shown up and the cheaters come in and fill in the blanks.
That's why swing states go Dem very late. And it's why Dem precincts have 100% turnout when that's impossible.


This seems like something that can be overcome by collecting biometric data of every voter when they show up to vote or submit their ballot. One person, one vote. Voting as the wrong person would not only restrict a fraudulent voter from repeating that pattern, it would also make fraud detection and prosecution much easier, and as a result have a deterrent effect on frickery.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
112268 posts
Posted on 5/31/21 at 2:07 pm to
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quote:
since the Republicans are the ones trying to restrict voting rights for American citizens.


It has been asked, but again, how does the Texas law restrict voting rights? Explain. Lay it out. Make your case.


Oddly silent to your and my request for actual proof.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62504 posts
Posted on 5/31/21 at 3:27 pm to
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Republicans are the ones trying to restrict voting rights for American citizens.
Who would be banned from voting?
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85598 posts
Posted on 5/31/21 at 3:47 pm to
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They also pushed back the start of Sunday voting, when many Black churchgoers go to the polls.


Lol. The left just constantly make shite up then throw their toys out the pram when they don't get to cheat.





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