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Ted Cruz and AOC team up together to ban lawmakers from lobbying

Posted on 5/31/19 at 11:37 am
Posted by musick
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Posted on 5/31/19 at 11:37 am
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"Let's make a deal," said Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-New York.

"You're on," agreed Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas.

The two lawmakers who have often been at odds found common ground in a place that often highlights polarizing opinions: Twitter. That's where Cruz and Ocasio-Cortez vowed to set aside their differences and work together on new lobbying restrictions for lawmakers. Now an unlikely coalition is forming around their joint effort. It started when Ocasio-Cortez tweeted Thursday morning that members of Congress shouldn't be allowed to become corporate lobbyists. "At minimum there should be a long wait period," she wrote.

Ocasio-Cortez cited a statistic from Public Citizen, in which the advocacy group reported that among former Congress members who move to jobs outside of politics, nearly 60% start lobbying or otherwise influencing federal policy. It didn't take long for Cruz to chime in. "Here's something I don't say often: on this point, I AGREE" with Ocasio-Cortez, Cruz stated. He went on to say that he has long called for a lifetime ban on former members of Congress becoming lobbyists.
Posted by timdonaghyswhistle
Member since Jul 2018
21063 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 11:39 am to
Good intentions, but they'd figure out ways around this easily.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 11:41 am to
Yep
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
38457 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 11:43 am to
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Good intentions, but they'd figure out ways around this easily


Hire the former lawmakers as consultants. Instead of them going and lobbying, they tell the company what to do/say and who to talk to.

Basically it’ll just transfer the lawmakers from directly lobbing to using a liaison who does what the former lawmaker tells them to do.

It’ll just push it deeper underground.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11821 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 11:44 am to
Ban big money lobbying then the problem will be solved.
Posted by Coastal Tiger
Along the vanishing Louisiana coast
Member since Apr 2005
2306 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 11:52 am to
Unconstitutional.

Carry on.
Posted by Demshoes
Up in here
Member since Aug 2015
10730 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 11:54 am to
Dave and Mary will be lobbying against this bill. Hard.
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
52562 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 11:57 am to
Y'all member when Bamarep told y'all AOC was a plant?

I member.
Posted by musick
the internet
Member since Dec 2008
26131 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 12:21 pm to
I member, I also jumped on that bandwagon when you first said it.
Posted by Lsujacket66
Member since Dec 2010
5324 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 12:57 pm to
What they’re proposing is unconstitutional
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
102728 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 1:08 pm to
Where in the constitution does it guarantee the right to be a lobbyist?
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
33513 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 1:43 pm to
Member that “AOC is a plant” meme?

Edit: swear I didn’t read the replies before posting this. I will leave it up in shame
This post was edited on 5/31/19 at 1:44 pm
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128797 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 1:53 pm to
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What they’re proposing is unconstitutional


Flesh that out a bit more. I’m initially inclined to disagree.
Posted by Coastal Tiger
Along the vanishing Louisiana coast
Member since Apr 2005
2306 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 1:57 pm to
Where in the constitution does it guarantee the right to be a lobbyist?


In the first amendment......”the right to petition the government for grievances.”


That’s lobbying........., be it by a letter from a citizen or a corporation on behalf of its employees.
This post was edited on 5/31/19 at 1:58 pm
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
29860 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 1:58 pm to
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Unconstitutional.

Carry on.
Posted by Coastal Tiger
Along the vanishing Louisiana coast
Member since Apr 2005
2306 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 1:59 pm to
Banning lobbying is a violation of the first amendment. Clear and simple. This won’t last ten minutes in a court of law.
This post was edited on 5/31/19 at 1:59 pm
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
30551 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 2:02 pm to
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”the right to petition the government for grievances.”


Yeah, that is a bit of a stretch... especially considering that there is already a two year cooling off period for Senators...

Weak argument is weak...
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 2:04 pm to
Honestly, this is what is known as treating a symptom while continuing to propagate the disease.

If you fill a trough with pig food, you can't be surprised pigs show up.

And, no matter how many detours you put up in the form of fences, the pigs will STILL find the trough.

The solution, if you don't want pigs on your property, is to stop filling the fricking trough!
Posted by Coastal Tiger
Along the vanishing Louisiana coast
Member since Apr 2005
2306 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 2:11 pm to
Weak argument is weak.



Whatever. I know I’m correct.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
30551 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 2:13 pm to
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Whatever. I know I’m correct.


That is the only argument you have? Got any case law to back it up?

Revolving Door Policy

Maybe you should educate yourself because there are already limitations on a whole host of government officials, including senators that seem to have stood the test of time...

Or is it just that you have a feeling?
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