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re: Taliban has taken Kabul. Terrorist attack at Airport at least 12 marines confirmed killed

Posted on 8/16/21 at 11:12 am to
Posted by Saskwatch
Member since Feb 2016
18334 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 11:12 am to
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President Biden orders another 1,000 paratroopers


How lucky are we that President Biden took time out of his vacation to send in a paratrooping unit so they can land in the middle of the clusterfrick?

He's extremely dedicated... Very dedicated... A more dedicated President as we "The People" have ever had the privileged electing.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
93541 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 11:12 am to
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I have terrible news to report in my latest update. The US Marines who are supposed to provide ground support at the Kabul Airport are unable to land due to the current chaos at the airport. It is currently unknown when they will arrive to help provide support for the troops on the ground but this is really bad news.

This has been a very real possibility ever since the grand escape plan hinged on the use of a single runway airport that would be used by multiple nations and military. What a disaster.



you would think we'd invent a way to make this happen, like rotary wing aircraft, or something similar
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75780 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 11:13 am to
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i’m now curious at to what the updated goal now is. Are we going to try and evac the estimated 10k allies and US citizens? Surely not all of them are at this one airport.

When Afghani people/friendlies were told/advised to flee to Kabul during the Taliban advancement, it wouldn't be surprising for all of them to wind up at that one airport.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11839 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 11:14 am to
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Are we going to try and evac the estimated 10k allies and US citizens? Surely not all of them are at this one airport. So will we be able to extract those who are behind Taliban check points? Or try? And what is the timeline of who we are trying to extract? I can’t imagine the logistics of that mission are going to be straight forward.



This is the biggest failing of the entire thing. How was this not done before we pulled out?
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26617 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 11:14 am to
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"Mr. President, if you were in Afghanistan right now, would you be eating vanilla or chocolate ice cream?"



All kidding aside, I'm hoping he comes out with some good news and stats on our progress in hand.

I heard they crammed about 800 people into A C-17 yesterday and got them to Qatar. That's a hell of a story if everyone arrived safe and unharmed. Probably a decent way to deflect from the leadership crisis.
This post was edited on 8/16/21 at 11:16 am
Posted by Saskwatch
Member since Feb 2016
18334 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 11:14 am to
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like rotary wing aircraft, or something similar


Maybe utilize those Osprey units?
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
41855 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 11:16 am to
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not worth the hassle. back on topic.


I didn't see what you posted before the edit, but be honest about what you do.

Someone posts something you don't like, and you construct a strawman then attack it.

It's what you do.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
69444 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 11:16 am to
LINK

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JUST IN - Pentagon says US Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin has no plans to resign after what happened in Afghanistan.


Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
134967 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 11:16 am to
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He's extremely dedicated... Very dedicated... A more dedicated President as we "The People" have ever had the privileged electing.



Par for the course for the candidate with the *most votes in history.
Posted by BoogaBear
Member since Jul 2013
7452 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 11:17 am to
How close are we to a brrrrrrr situation?

Not that it would ever be ordered.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75780 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 11:19 am to
From the Jerusalem Posr via Reuters.

LINK

quote:

US forces kill two gunmen at Kabul airportUS forces kill two gunmen at Kabul airport




Jerusalem Post  Breaking News


quote:

BREAKING NEWS

US forces kill two gunmen at Kabul airport

By REUTERS   

AUGUST 16, 2021 18:22

   

US forces protecting the airport in Kabul have killed two gunmen in separate incidents, a US official told Reuters.

The official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said that the incidents had occurred over the past 24 hours.

"Initial reports indicate armed assailants fired into the crowd," the official said.


Posted by BallsEleven
Member since Mar 2019
6163 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 11:19 am to


The plane is more likely to come down due to weight and balance issues than that dude actually hitting it.
Posted by Angry Bruce Pearl
Florida
Member since Jul 2020
599 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 11:20 am to
What's stopping the Taliban from launching mortars at the runway? Are they trying to pull an NVA and let the westerners leave before the public executions start?
Posted by double d
Amarillo by morning
Member since Jun 2004
17200 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 11:20 am to
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Probably a decent way to deflect from the leadership crisis.


Not a chance, even CNN has turned on him on this one.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26617 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 11:20 am to
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How close are we to a brrrrrrr situation?



Not going to happen.

They'll send in paratroopers to secure the airport, then start landing more transport planes.

Not sure how they are handling the people who are "sheltering in place" in Kabul or its suburbs. I doubt they'll advertise how that's going to be dealt with.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75780 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 11:21 am to
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What's stopping the Taliban from launching mortars at the runway?

Their word and nothing more. That's what this all hinges on. What a fricking position to be in.
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
30030 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 11:21 am to
C-130 taking off has new passenger section

The death toll at the airport has now risen to 10 btw.
This post was edited on 8/16/21 at 11:24 am
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216653 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 11:22 am to
So are we NOW going over there to get our people out???? After that what?????
Posted by TorchtheFlyingTiger
1st coast
Member since Jan 2008
3323 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 11:22 am to
" Brrrrrr situation" you mean brrrt? If so, urban CAS gonna be tough. What's the target and CDE better be dirgarded completely. Maybe in extremis, let's open it isn't coming down to that. Sounds cool and all but this complex situation is awful for troops and aircrew actually in the thick if it.

This post was edited on 8/16/21 at 11:26 am
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26617 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 11:23 am to
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The plane is more likely to come down due to weight and balance issues than that dude actually hitting it.



No kidding....read this one. It's not confirmed yet, but it's an incredible story if it's even remotely close to accurate.

Even more alarming than the stat of having that many people onboard is the "why".

800 People Evacuated From Kabul Aboard A Single C-17 Cargo Jet: Reports

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RCH (Reach) 871, a C-17A from Dover Air Force Base in Delaware, took off from Kabul just a few hours ago. This was likely during the same period when the airport's civilian ramp areas were being stormed by Afghans seeking salvation from the Taliban's impending rule. Understanding the worsening situation, the aircraft's crew apparently packed what they thought to be around 800 people into the jet's main cargo bay and headed for the safety of Al Udeid Air Base in Qatar.

Our friend Evergreen Intel was reporting this information in near real-time and new intercepted audio that has surfaced, which you can hear here, seems to confirm the reports.

As you can tell, the person talking to the flight, likely via satellite radio communications, is as stunned as we were when he heard the passenger load number. He asks "Ok, how many people do you think are on your jet?" Then after getting a reply from RCH 871 he responds "800 people on your jet?! Holy... Holy cow... Ok..."

According to Boeing, a C-17's passenger carrying capacity is officially "80 on 8 pallets, plus 54 passengers on sidewall seats." So, if this 800 number proves true, you can get an idea of just how jammed-packed the aircraft must have been.


They've crammed 700 people into a C-17 for civilian rescue operations before. And over 1,000 onto a B-747.

The UAE also crammed at least one of their C-17s to capacity yesterday in Kabul as well.
This post was edited on 8/16/21 at 11:26 am
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