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re: Supreme Court will consider whether people who regularly smoke MJ can legally own guns
Posted on 10/20/25 at 12:31 pm to ThuperThumpin
Posted on 10/20/25 at 12:31 pm to ThuperThumpin
I've been lucky that alcohol just really isn't that big with any of my family. Social drinking at a party or tailgate is about it for us.
As horrible as all that is, what you're talking about is self destructive. With guns we are talking about harming others. If both are just as bad, I'd be fine with heavy users of either not owning guns... If it were enforceable in a way that makes sense, which it's not
As horrible as all that is, what you're talking about is self destructive. With guns we are talking about harming others. If both are just as bad, I'd be fine with heavy users of either not owning guns... If it were enforceable in a way that makes sense, which it's not
Posted on 10/20/25 at 12:49 pm to VolSquatch
quote:Weed does not do this. Post your evidence.
but fiending for a drink and thinking there are people in your walls are two different types of anxiety
Alcohol is a total disaster compared to weed.
Posted on 10/20/25 at 1:02 pm to RogerTheShrubber
So serious question here as I'm uneducated on this. If someone in Louisiana has a medical marijuana prescription and attempts to purchase a firearm, can that individual just lie on the question that asks about marijuana use, and the seller will not be able to find that the person has a MM license in the state inventory? I thought that was easy to determine with a simple background check but maybe not.
Posted on 10/20/25 at 1:05 pm to canone4life
Yeah, thats why I never would go the Medical route.
No solid answer here, but the risk is too high that it could come back and bite you.
No solid answer here, but the risk is too high that it could come back and bite you.
Posted on 10/20/25 at 1:06 pm to GRTiger
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Trump isn't so much weak on 2a as he is 100% against all drugs. I think he needs to chill on weed users. This would create millions of felons overnight.
It's not going to happen. Replace the word "Marijuana" with "alcohol", and Congress would self-immolate in vehement protest. Make that point, and this will get dropped.
Posted on 10/20/25 at 1:07 pm to RogerTheShrubber
I saw this coming a mile a way. If they can get mJ users banned, next will be adhd medicine and go from there. If they can’t take your guns, make it illegal because of medicines.
Posted on 10/20/25 at 1:08 pm to stout
They are trying to take the fun right out of hunting. Couple of tokes as the sun breaks the horizon, ear buds in, and the squirrels, deer, and ducks start moving.
Posted on 10/20/25 at 1:14 pm to LegendInMyMind
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What about regular drinkers who have firearms? Better cut them off, too.
Caffeine is addictive, affects behavior, and causes withdrawals. All the coffee and coke drinkers are out, too.
Posted on 10/20/25 at 1:14 pm to AUauditor
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Assinine statement, considering criminally insane, mentally disabled, children, etc.
Then you do not understand the whole point of a lack of restrictions.
Posted on 10/20/25 at 1:19 pm to stout
Oh no. I lost all my guns and my weed yesterday in a boating accident.
Sorry feds.
Sorry feds.
Posted on 10/20/25 at 1:21 pm to stout
Good, marijuana is gay as shite
frick the hippies
frick the hippies
Posted on 10/20/25 at 1:22 pm to GeauxtigersMs36
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I saw this coming a mile a way. If they can get mJ users banned, next will be adhd medicine and go from there. If they can’t take your guns, make it illegal because of medicines.
Yep. Govt will backdoor a way to ban firearms from large numbers of folks if we let them start.
Posted on 10/20/25 at 1:22 pm to imjustafatkid
quote:There are. From the founding (and before), it was understood that the state could disarm some people. Historically, these are people that posed a threat to the state itself like Catholics, but grew to include people who pose a threat generally like convicts and mentally incompetent.
I'm kind of torn on this. Should there be any restrictions on people carrying around guns while impaired?
Posted on 10/20/25 at 1:24 pm to stout
quote:Citing a state law does not address the argument. People in this thread have an absolutist “shall not infringe” position. Now that the 14th amendment has made the 2nd amendment apply to states, you can’t say this is solely a state issue.
There are usually state laws that address this.
Posted on 10/20/25 at 1:24 pm to GRTiger
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This would create millions of felons overnight.
On the background check form, there is a question that ask if you are an unlawful user of recreational drugs.
If you smoke dope and answer no, you are committing a felony.
Posted on 10/20/25 at 1:25 pm to stout
Hell, alcohol is by far the worst drug to mix with firearms. Start there, and good luck!
Posted on 10/20/25 at 1:27 pm to canone4life
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So serious question here as I'm uneducated on this. If someone in Louisiana has a medical marijuana prescription and attempts to purchase a firearm, can that individual just lie on the question that asks about marijuana use, and the seller will not be able to find that the person has a MM license in the state inventory? I thought that was easy to determine with a simple background check but maybe not.
This scenario is questionable because of the 4473:
quote:
Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance?
Warning: The use or possession of marijuana remains unlawful under Federal law regardless of whether it has been legalized or decriminalized for medicinal or recreational purposes in the state where you reside.
If you are purchasing a firearm and you put "no" but have a medical card then they theoretically could come after you for lying on the application.
The bigger issue is that if you get a medical card after you have purchased the gun then that makes you unable to own the gun. It's the big part that makes the federal law and certain state laws clash because you already own a gun in a state that allows medical use so you are within the states jurisdiction. The state says it's fine. However, you are running afoul of the federal law because the feds say you can't.
For instance. Some states have laws that explicitly allow ownership yet the feds say they can't. Most set the restriction at possession of both the firearm and the marijuana at the same time in the same place. But since the 4473 is a federal form so you would have to lie to the feds in order to exercise your rights grated by the state.
Posted on 10/20/25 at 1:27 pm to bbvdd
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On the background check form, there is a question that ask if you are an unlawful user of recreational drugs.
I know. It's not a well worded question these days considering the legal ambiguity of things like delta 8. Not to mention someone who purchased a gun before introducing THC to their consumption would be in a legal gray area as well.
Posted on 10/20/25 at 3:09 pm to stout
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Why is Trump so weak on the 2nd A and even attacks it from time to time like bump stock ban?
Until MJ is legal federally people who smoke it are already banned from firearm ownership.
It’s right there in question e I think it is.
Posted on 10/20/25 at 4:02 pm to stout
When are they gonna come after drunks, then?
"Whoa. I hope you're smart enough to know that that who-hit-John don't go with guns." - John Wayne, The Shootist
I think Whiskey and guns have a pretty long and bad track record; the slope is slippery when wet.
If they take aim at grass, booze won't be far behind and soon only Mormons will be packing.
"Whoa. I hope you're smart enough to know that that who-hit-John don't go with guns." - John Wayne, The Shootist
I think Whiskey and guns have a pretty long and bad track record; the slope is slippery when wet.
If they take aim at grass, booze won't be far behind and soon only Mormons will be packing.
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