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re: Supreme Court just ruled that TX can deport illegals

Posted on 3/19/24 at 3:31 pm to
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 3/19/24 at 3:31 pm to
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Am I correct in that postulation?


Believe so. Doesnt this precedent allow Orange to do mass deports with Govs of states?
Posted by TigerAxeOK
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Posted on 3/19/24 at 3:32 pm to
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We all know what’s coming. Stay strapped my friends.

24/7, boss. 24/7. And I'm a very light sleeper.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 3/19/24 at 3:32 pm to
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So, via precedent, this should mean that every state has the legal right to deport illegals who are unlawfully residing within their borders if they so choose...

I wonder what the sanctuary states would do.
Posted by SWINC
Member since Sep 2022
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Posted on 3/19/24 at 3:36 pm to
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Anyone liberal claiming John Roberts is a conservative is fooling himself.


Heavily compromised
Posted by 87PurpleandGold
Arkansas
Member since Sep 2016
834 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 3:40 pm to
You could turn a "Barry Goldwater" conservative into a liberal if you had the videos that Epstein probably has on Roberts.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 3/19/24 at 3:46 pm to
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So, via precedent, this should mean that every state has the legal right to deport illegals who are unlawfully residing within their borders if they so choose...

Am I correct in that postulation?


I think it's murkier than that. There is a concurrence that seems to put a lot of emphasis on the nature of the 5th Circuit stay (candidly I haven't seen the Court focus previously on what ACB is focused on) but it strikes me as something we can't lean too heavily on yet.

Don't get me wrong I think it's good, but here you had a district court judge finding the law unconstitutional, followed by a stay at the circuit court. And with two conservatives leaning heavily on a pretty administrative basis for not overturning the 5th Circuit stay, I just don't think we can have a ton of confidence it would absolutely be replicated.

It seems like we'll get some better clarity from the 5th before long and get a better idea of the long term fate of this legislation (and potentially those of other states intending to replicate).

Here's the intro to the ACB/Kav concurrence

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If the Fifth Circuit had issued a stay pending appeal, this Court would apply the four-factor test set forth in Nken v. Holder—including, as relevant in this Court, an assessment of certworthiness—to decide whether to vacate it. 556 U. S. 418, 434 (2009); Does 1–3 v. Mills, 595 U. S. ___, ___ (2021) (Barrett, J., concurring in denial of application for injunctive relief ). But the Fifth Circuit has not entered a stay pending appeal. Instead, in an exercise of its docket- management authority, it issued a temporary administrative stay and deferred the stay motion to a merits panel, which is considering it in conjunction with Texas’s challenge to the District Court’s injunction of S. B. 4. Thus, the Fifth Circuit has not yet rendered a decision on whether a stay pending appeal is warranted. That puts this case in a very unusual procedural posture.


Posted by Thecoz
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 3/19/24 at 3:46 pm to
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Posted by Thecoz
Member since Dec 2018
3880 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 3:52 pm to
“Fire up 'dem buses baws! We goin' to DC and Cali!”

Fwiw….Texas taxpayers have spent over 154 million dollars bussing them to other places.. abbot said he would raise the cost from donations.. so far he has raised about 500 k….
Posted by Longhorn Actual
Member since Dec 2023
2917 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 3:58 pm to
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so their olny other land bridge is southern california,


Allow me to introduce you to the states of New Mexico and Arizona.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
11101 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 4:03 pm to
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US DOJ immigration courts ultimately hear such cases—they’re where the rubber meets the road.
I’m of the personal opinion this Union of states won’t last long enough for most of these cases to reach federal DOJ courts.



So no mass deportations? Is that what you are saying?
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
45270 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 4:12 pm to
Remains to be seen.
Arrests are very likely—which will bleed these small communities (tho I’m in total support of said incarcerations).
How DoJ responds is the unknown.

We’re in unknown territory here.
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
19717 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 4:23 pm to
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I honestly liked it better when Texas was sending them to liberal cities specifically those that called themselves sanctuaries. Watching those cities deport migrants faster than a speeding bullet was hilarious.

When did these sanctuary cities deport anyone? I don’t remember that happening.
Posted by Double Oh
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
23443 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 4:35 pm to
Whose the 3 knuckleheads that voted against this?
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
16657 posts
Posted on 3/20/24 at 6:41 am to
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And I would expect the 5th Circuit to get involved shortly.
good call. They did.
Posted by Espritdescorps
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Posted on 3/20/24 at 6:47 am to
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