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Strip away whataboutism, election fraud, and specific GOPE policies, what does MAGA offer?
Posted on 8/18/23 at 7:54 am
Posted on 8/18/23 at 7:54 am
Is all that's left populism and opposition to an esoteric, perceived enemy (however you want to name the undefined, vague out-group...globalism, Establishment, Deep State, etc.)?
What did Trump actually get accomplished for the long term in his administration of worth outside of 2 long-term GOPE policies (Judicial nominations and tax cuts, thanks to Mr. Establishment, Mitch McConnell, primarily)?
After the 2020 election, one singular topic has dominated the MAGA-sphere: election fraud.
Coming in second has been the classic whataboutism you see with oppositional parties/groups, which has ramped up with the exposing of likely criminal acts by the Biden family (note: nobody is defending Biden ITT).
So you take these things away, what else is there?
"Trade deals" I guess, but that's just Leftism and really is under the "opposition to esoteric perceived enemies" grouping.
Non-intervention during Trump's admin was mostly due to opportunity. The one time he was pushed for a decision, he let emotions rule and did engage, militarily. Cite. He was never really asked to make a decision otherwise.
What did Trump actually get accomplished for the long term in his administration of worth outside of 2 long-term GOPE policies (Judicial nominations and tax cuts, thanks to Mr. Establishment, Mitch McConnell, primarily)?
After the 2020 election, one singular topic has dominated the MAGA-sphere: election fraud.
Coming in second has been the classic whataboutism you see with oppositional parties/groups, which has ramped up with the exposing of likely criminal acts by the Biden family (note: nobody is defending Biden ITT).
So you take these things away, what else is there?
"Trade deals" I guess, but that's just Leftism and really is under the "opposition to esoteric perceived enemies" grouping.
Non-intervention during Trump's admin was mostly due to opportunity. The one time he was pushed for a decision, he let emotions rule and did engage, militarily. Cite. He was never really asked to make a decision otherwise.
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Posted on 8/18/23 at 7:57 am to SlowFlowPro
Trade reciprocity to grow a manufacturing based and have less of a service based economy.
Less wars.
Policies to increase energy supply and lower energy costs.
Secure borders thus putting upward wage pressure on working class.
ETA: good judges that lead to decisions with good outcomes.
Less wars.
Policies to increase energy supply and lower energy costs.
Secure borders thus putting upward wage pressure on working class.
ETA: good judges that lead to decisions with good outcomes.
This post was edited on 8/18/23 at 7:58 am
Posted on 8/18/23 at 7:59 am to SlowFlowPro
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what does MAGA offer?
MAGA is hated by my enemies.
The alternatives are not.
An enemy of my enemy is a friend of mine.
Posted on 8/18/23 at 7:59 am to SlowFlowPro
You aren’t over there for one.
Posted on 8/18/23 at 7:59 am to GumboPot
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Trade reciprocity to grow a manufacturing based and have less of a service based economy.
I said Leftist economics was a spinoff of the opposition to perceived esoteric enemies.
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Less wars.
Not enough information to judge. With the information we have, it's not likely to be true.
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Policies to increase energy supply and lower energy costs.
GOPE policies.
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Secure borders thus putting upward wage pressure on working class.
That, like "trade deals" falls under a larger umbrella but it's different enough where I'll give it to you.
OK so we have:
1. Opposition to perceived esoteric enemies
2. "Secure" borders (whatever that means)
Posted on 8/18/23 at 7:59 am to SlowFlowPro
If you cannot remember how well the economy was doing, inflation (or lack there of), no wars (was about to end Afgan), etc. then I cannot help you.
Posted on 8/18/23 at 8:00 am to SlowFlowPro
I think the answer is pretty obvious. Voters like to be philosophically aligned with their candidate. A philosophical commitment to American ASPIRATION as opposed to the American DECLINISM of other parties and candidates. Basically a country in which our Institutions aren’t INTENTIONALLY turned against us by the executive branch ? Maybe it’s more about voters sharing the vision ( or perceived vision) of the candidate.
Posted on 8/18/23 at 8:00 am to SlowFlowPro
I think he would have gotten a lot more accomplished had he not had people in his own administration backstabbing him, secretly leaking stuff, and not have people suing to block all of his EO's.
Posted on 8/18/23 at 8:00 am to SlowFlowPro
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election fraud.
Elections without transparency deserve the full presumption of fraud.
And that's not saying that they are all fraudulent, just that the presumption is valid and deserving.
Posted on 8/18/23 at 8:00 am to SlowFlowPro
What a dumb post. Sad.
Posted on 8/18/23 at 8:01 am to Warboo
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If you cannot remember how well the economy was doing, inflation (or lack there of), no wars (was about to end Afgan), etc. then I cannot help you.
We are still feeling inflation from Trump-era spending.
He was never presented with the decision to go to war, and when presented with micro-decisions, he did choose military engagement due to emotional thinking (I literally cited this).
Posted on 8/18/23 at 8:02 am to SlowFlowPro
More than the Brandon's puppeteer show of communism.
Posted on 8/18/23 at 8:02 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
what does MAGA offer?
So, to phrase this another way, "why would anyone want to make America Great again"?
Posted on 8/18/23 at 8:03 am to SlowFlowPro
Wants to strip away whataboutism, makes long post that is what about trump?
Posted on 8/18/23 at 8:03 am to SlowFlowPro
You just cannot reason with someone that is not reasonable. I will not waste my time on SFP as he is the poster child for unreasonable.
Posted on 8/18/23 at 8:03 am to SlowFlowPro
exactly what all career politicians and Democrats hate and fear about him.
America fricking first and exposing political corruption that makes all the POS politicians rich and screws us.
America fricking first and exposing political corruption that makes all the POS politicians rich and screws us.
Posted on 8/18/23 at 8:03 am to SlowFlowPro
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Is all that's left populism and opposition to an esoteric, perceived enemy (however you want to name the undefined, vague out-group...globalism, Establishment, Deep State, etc.)?
What did Trump actually get accomplished for the long term in his administration of worth outside of 2 long-term GOPE policies (Judicial nominations and tax cuts, thanks to Mr. Establishment, Mitch McConnell, primarily)?
After the 2020 election, one singular topic has dominated the MAGA-sphere: election fraud.
Coming in second has been the classic whataboutism you see with oppositional parties/groups, which has ramped up with the exposing of likely criminal acts by the Biden family (note: nobody is defending Biden ITT).
So you take these things away, what else is there?
"Trade deals" I guess, but that's just Leftism and really is under the "opposition to esoteric perceived enemies" grouping.
Non-intervention during Trump's admin was mostly due to opportunity. The one time he was pushed for a decision, he let emotions rule and did engage, militarily. Cite. He was never really asked to make a decision otherwise.
I have to love his Federal and SCOTUS judges. Talk about a legacy. It has stymied the current administration and cut the legs off of administrative agency "law" making authority. Obviously a stolen election is extremely important as well as a current President so corrupt it almost makes us forget about the Clinton's and Bushes.
His 2nd term will be GLORIOUS!!
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He was never presented with the decision to go to war
Yep, because they knew he would hit them back very hard. Peace Through Strength Works, obviously.
This post was edited on 8/18/23 at 8:09 am
Posted on 8/18/23 at 8:03 am to Warboo
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inflation
The CARES Act started inflation.
Posted on 8/18/23 at 8:04 am to SlowFlowPro
Cutting liberal pushed regulations.
The best peace keeping president we've had since WW2.
Lots of small things he did that directly helped every American.
The best peace keeping president we've had since WW2.
Lots of small things he did that directly helped every American.
Posted on 8/18/23 at 8:05 am to SlowFlowPro
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We are still feeling inflation from Trump-era spending.
He was never presented with the decision to go to war, and when presented with micro-decisions, he did choose military engagement due to emotional thinking (I literally cited this).
This is your opinion. It is a terrible opinion that most disagree with but still its JUST YOUR OPINION. I do not give a crap what your opinion is.
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