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State's coronavirus death toll drops significantly after officials make criteria change

Posted on 5/16/20 at 3:24 pm
Posted by Crimson Wraith
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Posted on 5/16/20 at 3:24 pm
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Colorado's coronavirus death toll dropped significantly on Friday after the Colorado Department of Health and Environment made a major change in how state officials report COVID-19 deaths.

State officials are now distinguishing between people who died "with COVID-19" and those who died "due to COVID-19." Previously, officials lumped all the deaths together, meaning people who had COVID-19, yet did not die directly from the virus, were included in the state's official death count.

The change resulted in nearly 300 fewer COVID-19 deaths in Colorado, KDVR-TV reported.

On Friday afternoon, the Colorado Department of Health reported 1,150 COVID-19 deaths. But after the change, that count dropped to 878.

"We have been reporting at the state, deaths among people who had COVID-19 at the time of death and the cause of that death may or may not have been COVID-19," Dr. Eric France, Colorado Health Department's chief medical officer, said Friday, according to KDVR.

"We started to hear stories about 'are these correct or are these incorrect?'" he explained.

COVID-19 death counts have received increased scrutiny over the last month as the national death count continues to increase by an average of 1,000-2,000 deaths per day.

Frustration over COVID-19 death classification boiled over in Colorado this week after state officials included the death of 35-year-old Sebastian Yellow as a COVID-19 death.

However, Colorado's Montezuma County coroner, George Deavers, determined that Yellow had died from alcohol poisoning, having a blood alcohol content of .55 at the time of his death, which is over the lethal limit.


"It wasn't COVID, it was alcohol toxicity," Deavers said. "Yes, he did have COVID, but that is not what took his life."
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 3:25 pm to
That’s fair. People dying from obviously unrelated things like overdoses shouldn’t be in the count
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 5/16/20 at 3:27 pm to
CNN will not be pleased.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
40606 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 3:29 pm to
I need someone to do the math.

If we extrapolate across the country to states that are doing the same type of classification, is that worth 5 to 10k nationwide? More or less?

Making a COVID death out of a guy who is .55 blood alcohol is pretty ridiculous.
Posted by Tbonepatron
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 5/16/20 at 3:30 pm to
Posted by Shaun176
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
2956 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 3:32 pm to
My cousin manages a hospice group in the NYC area. They test everyone who dies and if they test positive it counts as a covid death even if they never had any covid symptoms. They don't do this with the flu. If a person goes in to hospice for cancer and the flu puts them over the edge, the death certificate says cancer.
Posted by Shaun176
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
2956 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 3:36 pm to
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If we extrapolate across the country to states that are doing the same type of classification, is that worth 5 to 10k nationwide? More or less?


They reduced their number by about 25%. Applied nationwide that would be 20k less.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 5/16/20 at 3:36 pm to
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I need someone to do the math.

If we extrapolate across the country to states that are doing the same type of classification, is that worth 5 to 10k nationwide? More or less?



26%
Posted by Bulldogblitz
In my house
Member since Dec 2018
28158 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 3:38 pm to
Thats what too much pot does. They probably count all sorts of things funky.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
40606 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 3:38 pm to
Ya that's a rough estimation.

I'm curious how many states are doing "with" instead "of" COVID so I tried to offhand discount a straight projection thinking there may be a few doing it right.

Maybe it is that easy though.
This post was edited on 5/16/20 at 3:39 pm
Posted by GaDawg9977
Member since Aug 2016
2399 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 3:41 pm to
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My cousin manages a hospice group in the NYC area. They test everyone who dies and if they test positive it counts as a covid death even if they never had any covid symptoms. They don't do this with the flu. If a person goes in to hospice for cancer and the flu puts them over the edge, the death certificate says cancer.


They’re not going to allow themselves be wrong. They must meet the number one way or another or they will lose the “expert” status. It’s a pride thing at this point.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 3:47 pm to
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However, Colorado's Montezuma County coroner, George Deavers, determined that Yellow had died from alcohol poisoning, having a blood alcohol content of .55 at the time of his death, which is over the lethal limit.


Posted by bird35
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
13451 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 4:08 pm to
.55 is some impressive drinking!

Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103174 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 4:09 pm to
May need to check him for PEDs.

That’s how Ben Wynne was able to get such a high BAC at LSU back in 1997.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
26378 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 4:14 pm to
I knew Sebastian Yellow, this is great news that he didn't die of CV. I feel better now.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 4:15 pm to
My state has actually done well on this. Jared Polis is the only elected Democrat (along with Tulsi) that I don’t want to strangle right now.
Posted by Dead End
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
21237 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 4:16 pm to
That doesn't help the fear mongering...
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
31350 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 4:34 pm to
Ok now do this in the 49 other states.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
26378 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 4:36 pm to
Wait, I was told I was nuts for saying they were inflating the numbers!
Posted by Hot Carl
Prayers up for 3
Member since Dec 2005
62099 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 4:44 pm to
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blood alcohol content of .55


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