re: State's coronavirus death toll drops significantly after officials make criteria change

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That’s fair. People dying from obviously unrelated things like overdoses shouldn’t be in the count

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They shouldn't.

And frankly, there needs to be SOME method for accounting for "dude who was likely going to be dead inside of 6 months, gets COVID, dies this month".

I personally know of two people who fit this description.

That fits with my back of napkin calculations of $100B-$200B in total actuarial calculations for 100,000 deaths at $130,000 per YLL.

And yet there was an article in the WSJ today that the latest available US death toll is 30% above average.

WSJ (Pay Wall)

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In mid-April, 30% more Americans died than was typical in the same period in previous years, a Wall Street Journal examination of federal death-certificate data shows

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They don't do this with the flu. If a person goes in to hospice for cancer and the flu puts them over the edge, the death certificate says cancer

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You mean they're lying?

Shocker

Wow. I am totally shocked.

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State officials are now distinguishing between people who died "with COVID-19" and those who died "due to COVID-19." Previously, officials lumped all the deaths together, meaning people who had COVID-19, yet did not die directly from the virus, were included in the state's official death count.

The change resulted in nearly 300 fewer COVID-19 deaths in Colorado, KDVR-TV reported.

On Friday afternoon, the Colorado Department of Health reported 1,150 COVID-19 deaths. But after the change, that count dropped to 878.

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It's only how officials are reporting the numbers to the public. It has nothing to do with how medical facilities are reporting. The CDC death tally for Colorado remains unchanged:

CDC was already reporting Colorado COVID deaths at 878

Journalists and politicians are shitty but that doesn't mean doctors are committing fraud nationwide.

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So you're saying that the CDC is reporting there are 60K US COVID deaths?

I thought the number was north of 85K now?

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The CDC is an official number but there is a delay - admitted by the CDC because they verify all death certificates from the various State Depts of Health. So the actual number is some number North of the 60K cited by the CDC but won't be known for awhile.

This is the same reason for a lot of the "reduced heart attacks, strokes, etc." because the CDC doesn't report in real time. The typical final number isn't usually known for a few months.

The 85K number is the number used by media outlets that get state figures from various state agencies in real time.

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So this is the number that's inflated, which is the one the public sees/cites most.

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Not necessarily inflated, just not entirely verified yet.

But I wouldn’t use it. American media is shite all around.

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Unless Colorado is some wild anomaly, it's inflated - right? Colorado just lowered its COVID death count by 25% because there was a backlash against the fraudulent way COVID deaths were being counted.

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I’m going to wait for someone other than The Blaze to report on it. It’s a notoriously shite media outlet.

It could be inflated or it could be the Blaze misconstruing something about the Colorado reporting method.

For instance, we don’t know which the number the various outlets are pulling for Colorado - or of they are even all the same.

The only real number is the CDC - and like I said - it’s delayed.

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The CDC is an official number but there is a delay - admitted by the CDC because they verify all death certificates from the various State Depts of Health. So the actual number is some number North of the 60K cited by the CDC but won't be known for awhile

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it is neither "official" nor "actual." it's just a number that is being questioned by experts.