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re: So you baws want to work longer

Posted on 1/16/23 at 10:12 pm to
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
13910 posts
Posted on 1/16/23 at 10:12 pm to
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Of course, that’s the only way to make social security viable, never have to pay or out.
When SS was passed, the life expectancy for a man was 59, but you couldn't draw it until 65. It was insurance against being too old and feeble to work, but still being alive. Now life expectancy is 76 years, but you can still draw as early as 62. Somewhere along the way Social Security went from insurance to retirement plan in people's minds.
Posted by Tmo Sabe
GA
Member since Mar 2022
609 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 5:56 am to
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Georgia GOP


I was heavily involved, convention cycles, etc. up until 2013. The Georgia GOP, party chair Sue Everhart and convention chair Randy Evans railroaded the establishment will on the state party multiple conventions in a row. Points of order not heard, people ignored standing at microphones, "the opinion of the chair" being quickly stated with a grin on voice votes which were way too close to call. The Republican Party is a fascist machine not much unlike the Democratic Party. My father-in-law always tries to get me to come back and join the local party but I told him if the party can get a decent candidate in the primary I will support with a vote and a donation, but I will no longer directly support the party.

While the Libertarian Party is a joke for its own reasons, one thing they do absolutely correctly is nominate their party slate of candidates at their convention. This democratic primary system of nominating general candidates has to go away. Until the Republican party supports that position, they are no better than the Democrats in that regard either.

There are a few other decent republicans at the state level in GA. Most of them are either trash neocons or are literally too stupid to understand what they're voting on (see Ellis Black). The good ones don't typically last. Like Washington, Atlanta don't run on principle.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
24796 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 6:05 am to
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tell him that all the time.


I’m skeptical about this claim.
This post was edited on 1/17/23 at 6:48 am
Posted by double d
Amarillo by morning
Member since Jun 2004
16409 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 6:08 am to
Not want to, might have to with the cost of everything skyrocketing.
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
10144 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 6:14 am to
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As average life expectancy goes up the age of retirement will keep getting pushed out.

But it's not. Covid, vaccines and fentanyl OD's have reversed that trend.

We are going to get screwed coming and going.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
67737 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 6:15 am to
With our low birth rates, is pretty much is.
Posted by Screaming Viking
Member since Jul 2013
4444 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 6:16 am to
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As average life expectancy goes up the age of retirement will keep getting pushed out.


But I thought life expectancy in the US recently dropped? Surely our wise politicians will drop the age to receive SS according to this?

Bottom line is that if you plan your retirement around SS, you have bigger problems.
Posted by Stealth Matrix
29°59'55.98"N 90°05'21.85"W
Member since Aug 2019
7804 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 6:28 am to
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“People want to work longer”

No, "people" have realized once the boomers all fully retire there won't be enough workers left to keep the machine running. It's the logical consequence of pimping the infinite growth scam while also pushing depopulation through birth control using various methods.
Posted by dakarx
Member since Sep 2018
6824 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 6:30 am to
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"People want to work longer”


Just like people telling pols they want to pay more taxes.......

There is NOTHING stopping them from doing so.

The problem is this NEVER happens.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162209 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 6:32 am to
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Nobody is telling him that.
Posted by Perfect Circle
S W Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
6837 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 6:33 am to
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So you baws want to work longer


Yes! If my health allows, I'll never retire.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162209 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 6:34 am to
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Just like people telling pols they want to pay more taxes.......

There is NOTHING stopping them from doing so.

The problem is this NEVER happens.



It's interesting when the elite billionaires like Buffet and Gates say that the rich need to be taxed more

They can cut a check to the treasury anytime they want but they prefer to spend their excess on more investments or private charities

They're complete hypocrites
Posted by Ricardo
Member since Sep 2016
4874 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 7:26 am to
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When SS was passed, the life expectancy for a man was 59, but you couldn't draw it until 65. It was insurance against being too old and feeble to work, but still being alive. Now life expectancy is 76 years, but you can still draw as early as 62. Somewhere along the way Social Security went from insurance to retirement plan in people's minds.



People see average life expectancy and draw the wrong conclusions.

Human longevity hasn't changed much since then. What has changed is a person is much more likely to survive childhood than 100 years ago. If a person born in 1923 made it to adulthood, he was just as likely to live past his 60th birthday as a person born today.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
21528 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 7:28 am to
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So you baws want to work longer


Someone has to pay for all the SSI disability scammers and illegals flooding across the border.
Posted by WhiskeyThrottle
Weatherford Tx
Member since Nov 2017
5300 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 8:01 am to
Why is retirement a all or nothing option?

Never really thought of it till now, but plenty of people want to keep busy in retirement, but don't want the grind of the 40 hour work week. Why not offer limited retirement where you can take incremental amounts of retirement based on what you're working. If I'm 60 and want to work 2 or 3 days a week, why not let me collect 40% retirement and offset the difference with W-2 wages.

They need to quit increasing the age of retirement and address the elephant in the room of an uberly mismanaged SS fund. Either that, or pay out what everyone has paid in and do away with it. That would be the constitutional thing to do.
Posted by El Segundo Guy
SE OK
Member since Aug 2014
9572 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 8:03 am to
If I could have worked 2-3 days a week, I'd probably still be working. But I got tired of putting in 40+ hrs a week when financially I didn't have to.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
34883 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 8:18 am to
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Well that guy can go to hell.



Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 8:24 am to
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Somewhere along the way Social Security went from insurance to retirement plan in people's minds.


The gubment sold it (and forced citizens to buy it) as an insurance plan. They need to pay up.
Posted by SantaFe
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
6532 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 8:32 am to
Why is some government clown trying to tell Free People that they must work or not ?
If a person wants to work they have the Freedom to make that choice.
If they choose not to then that’s their choice.
The government should never be involved in this.
If a person doesn’t work then they don’t eat.
Phuck politicians.
Posted by wareaglepete
Lumon Industries
Member since Dec 2012
10942 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 8:44 am to
Look at his peers in government. You can’t get those folks to retire. Who you are around has an influence on your views.
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