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re: So the US has 95k if the worlds 330k covid deaths?

Posted on 5/21/20 at 7:12 am to
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 7:12 am to
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You don’t have Corona deaths if you don’t test for Corona..


That may be true but also realize that we were told if we don’t do anything the infection rate will go exponential and everyone will get it. If that were true, you can only ignore It so long before the bodies pile up in the street. Which obviously isn’t happening because CNN would be all over it.
This post was edited on 5/21/20 at 7:13 am
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39569 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 7:12 am to
Our numbers are trash, dude. I know a lady who has a friend that died in a car wreck. They tested the body for Corona and sent her a death certificate with covid as cause of death. Wisconsin just audited their corona deaths and revised their number down by hundreds.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
22523 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 7:15 am to
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That may be true but also realize that we were told if we don’t do anything the infection rate will go exponential and everyone will get it. If that were true, you can only ignore It so long before the bodies pile up in the street. Which obviously isn’t happening because CNN would be all over it


CNN is pushing a narrative that the US has responded and is doing terrible, they aren’t headed to Lagos Nigeria or Mexico City or Beijing to do investigative journalism into those places and a hundred others that are either not testing or are outright lying about their numbers. This would take away from the agenda of OMB
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
9909 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 7:19 am to
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Where is the data on developing countries you spoke of? All I see are developed countries.


The Economist has the only publicly available database and doesn't have many countries yet. Most developing countries don't do the same kind of real-time reporting as developed countries, so there will be lag. Given what's happening in the developed world, we should see the same pattern of increased general mortality compared to baseline once the reporting catches up.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
29220 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 7:21 am to
Yes because we know China’s numbers

Also each country has different ways of reporting, it’s not some global unified system. I honestly wound trust either the IS or the global numbers, it’s pretty much guaranteed they aren’t accurate.
This post was edited on 5/21/20 at 7:23 am
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111597 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 7:22 am to
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they aren’t headed to Lagos Nigeria or Mexico City or Beijing


No need to go to China. Their government has been super transparent.
Posted by GaDawg9977
Member since Aug 2016
2399 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 7:23 am to
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The US is doing more testing and reporting than any other country on earth.


Yes, we must see how much self inflicted damage we can do just because OMB.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
9909 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 7:26 am to
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What did those countries do? Lock people in their homes? Shut down the use of their credit cards? Should we have done that?


Every country tries to match a response consonant with its values and population. Some of the effective methods have been authoritarian (e.g. South Africa essentially holding people under house arrest), others involving consdierable tech (e.g. South Korea using electronic push-alerts to contacts), highly solidaristic approaches with very high and early adoption of mask wearing.
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
18089 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 7:28 am to
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We have low levels of public trust. We're suspicious of public health information.


Yes. And for good reason.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68421 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 7:34 am to
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Every country tries to match a response consonant with its values and population
And that is what we did.

SK did more than that, btw.
Posted by tigerinDC09
Washington, DC
Member since Nov 2011
4741 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 7:34 am to
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Give it time. Brazil is coming on Strong


The Trump of the tropics will give the US a run for the title.
Posted by tigerinDC09
Washington, DC
Member since Nov 2011
4741 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 7:36 am to
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No need to go to China. Their government has been super transparent.


Yeah, exactly like Trump said.
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
11824 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 7:38 am to
COVID hit Europe and North America fast (due to global travel)

it is starting to get a foothold in Africa and Central and South America.



Posted by Putty
Member since Oct 2003
25489 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 7:39 am to
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So the US has 95k if the worlds 330k covid deaths?


US is fraudulently inflating their numbers while China, Russia, and others are fraudulently under-reporting their numbers (by a really really lot), and while shitloads of countries just don’t give a frick enough to bother tracking.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
9909 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 7:39 am to
To a certain extent you're right, but a response similar to Germany would've been possible for us if this hadn't been politicized from the jump and we'd tried to handle it more as a public health than a PR problem. The public has a limited reservoir of trust to follow massive public-health interventions. We drained our reservoir mighty quick.
This post was edited on 5/21/20 at 7:41 am
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140698 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 7:40 am to
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we're doing relatively poorly


Look at the zip codes of the hardest hit areas. Then match the demographics.


One day, someone is going to tell the truth.
Posted by Baldy
Member since May 2020
358 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 7:42 am to
We are the only country that incentivizes over-reporting instead of under?
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140698 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 7:44 am to
I don’t know but it wouldn’t surprise me.
Posted by Tarps99
Lafourche Parish
Member since Apr 2017
7537 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 7:48 am to
Statistics can be easily manipulated.

You put in a variable that benefits one thing next thing you know the numbers are skewed.

It happens all the time in sports, stock reporting, political reporting, weather forecasting, and now even death toll.

With the right data sets you can make something that looks negative look positive.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140698 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 7:49 am to
We’re you born a bitch or is it a skill you learned?

Do you go on boards about heterosexual sex and shite all over it too?
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