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Posted on 5/8/20 at 12:25 pm to GRTiger
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One article I saw said there had been one burglary reported in the neighborhood in the 3 months leading up to this incident, in early January.
Someone outside the McMichaels home had a 9mm stolen from their car. It may even been the McMichaels.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 12:26 pm to troyt37
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If you're breaking into places and stealing shite, and you come close enough to getting caught that you take off running, do you go ahead and carry the shite you're stealing with you? I wouldn't know, but it don't sound like it would be conducive to getting away, especially if you're stealing tv's, or video game consoles, etc.
All of this is a wonderful flight of fancy wholly unconnected to our discussion.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 12:27 pm to Lsut81
quote:Who cares if he's a choir boy?
but I'm curious if the victim was the choir boy he is being made out to be.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 12:27 pm to MadtownTiger
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WHY IN THE F*CK, would you decide to go for a jog through that neighborhood, with white honkies, that have been burglarized repeatedly, in your khakis/high tops/hammer get-up.
Yeah, not like this is fricking free country or anything... I mean if the ninjas would just stay in their own neighborhood and quit dating the white girls shite would be ok, amirite...
Posted on 5/8/20 at 12:28 pm to Lsut81
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but I'm curious if the victim was the choir boy he is being made out to be.
The only picture the media is using of him is 8 years old. What do you think?
Posted on 5/8/20 at 12:28 pm to Big Scrub TX
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Who cares if he's a choir boy?
I do...…...and, it depends
If he wasn't a choir boy, but no one involved had any way of knowing he wasn't, I don't care.
If he had a history of stealing, especially of stealing from that particular neighborhood and those involved knew it, I'm starting to care.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 12:28 pm to Lsut81
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but I'm curious if the victim was the choir boy he is being made out to be.
You know the answer to this question.
The media will not report the full truth.
He was a good boy who donated his time and money to help charity. While on a jog to remain healthy during these troubling times, he was stalked by two Trump supporting racists and shot to death just for being black.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 12:28 pm to The Boat
quote:Really? 8?
The only picture the media is using of him is 8 years old. What do you think?
Good Lord they're so pathetic
Posted on 5/8/20 at 12:29 pm to ShortyRob
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I mean, it's readily obvious he runs with intent to go for dude with the shotgun.
Again, why do we just have to make shite up here?
You're not making shite up, but you're definitely framing it in a way to at least imply some fault on the victim.
These rednecks followed him around the neighborhood, shouting at him to stop. They admitted this. They said he tried to evade them by going a different direction. The video shows him being boxed in by the truck and the guy following with the camera. The dude tries to go around the truck, and sees one of the rednecks brandishing a weapon.
At what point can any normal person empathize with the guy's decision to defend himself at the sight of a weapon in close quarters, being held by a guy that had been harrasing him and whom the victim tried and failed to get away from?
Fight or flight is very real, and when flight has already failed, what in your reasonable mind is the expected reaction in the situation we see on video?
Posted on 5/8/20 at 12:30 pm to MadtownTiger
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WHY IN THE F*CK, would you decide to go for a jog through that neighborhood, with white honkies, that have been burglarized repeatedly, in your khakis/high tops/hammer get-up.
The neighborhood had been burglarized once. My neighborhood has had more burglaries by African Americans from other places than this neighborhood. We have, so far, not shot any African Americans in retaliation.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 12:30 pm to The Maj
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Yeah, not like this is fricking free country or anything... I mean if the ninjas would just stay in their own neighborhood and quit dating the white girls shite would be ok, amirite...
It sure is a free fricking country, but why dont you bookmark this thread and come repost next time you get done with your 10k through through the lower 9th ward.
I'll be waiting to eat crow.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 12:30 pm to Blizzard of Chizz
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Whether or not he was a burglar is irrelevant. Chasing him down and blasting him with a shotgun is all that matters. They can't claim self defense or their life was in danger because he was running away from them.
Too simplistic.
Assuming for a second that he did commit felony burglary, and they saw him commit it, Georgia law allows for them to attempt a citizen's arrest. If he became violent and fought over a gun with them while they attempted to perform a citizen's arrest they could then shoot him because they feared for their lives. He'd have no stand your ground defense because he had just committed a felony and was resisting, at least what Georgia considers, a legal detainment/arrest.
We don't know who initiated the conflict, but it's pretty apparent they didn't have good reason to believe he had committed a felony and shouldn't have confronted him in the first place.
There is a scenario where a citizen can "chase him down and blast him with a shotgun (if he attempted to grab the shotgun in the process)". Unfortunately for the two guys involved, this doesn't appear to be one of those situations. Worse, the fact that they tried to stop him with firearms suggests kidnapping, which automatically elevates the killing to a first degree murder.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 12:31 pm to GRTiger
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You're not making shite up, but you're definitely framing it in a way to at least imply some fault on the victim.
No, I'm just framing it in a way it occurred.
quote:And I don't deny it.
These rednecks followed him around the neighborhood, shouting at him to stop. They admitted this.
quote:OK
They said he tried to evade them by going a different direction. The video shows him being boxed in by the truck and the guy following with the camera. The dude tries to go around the truck, and sees one of the rednecks brandishing a weapon.
quote:I actually do, and have said so.
At what point can any normal person empathize with the guy's decision to defend himself at the sight of a weapon in close quarters, being held by a guy that had been harrasing him and whom the victim tried and failed to get away from?
If he was genuinely just joggin thru the neighborhood and these dudes boxed him in...…….he very reasonably could have inferred his life was in danger and acted aggressively in return. Which I would COMPLETELY understand.
I've already said that on this board.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 12:32 pm to ShortyRob
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He CLEARLY wraps the front of the truck on his way to junior. The shot may have gone off before they made physical contact...…….but, he wasn't "running away". He was damned sure initiating.
If his intent was to initiate with the son from the get go, why did he go right instead of left when the son was on the left when he is approaching? It's not unreasonable, and even looks likely, that he went right came around and then decided he had to act.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 12:32 pm to Big Scrub TX
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Who cares if he's a choir boy?
Morons if this thread tells us anything
Posted on 5/8/20 at 12:33 pm to ShortyRob
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..today, I see that fricker running thru my neighborhood in shall we say, unorthodox jogging wear, my reaction is going to be different than if just some random black guy runs down my street.
Would you go after him with a gun? What would you do?
I’d safely watch him and if necessary call the cops.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 12:33 pm to MadtownTiger
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It sure is a free fricking country, but why dont you bookmark this thread and come repost next time you get done with your 10k through through the lower 9th ward.
Is it hard keeping those white robes clean?
Posted on 5/8/20 at 12:34 pm to ShortyRob
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If he had a history of stealing, especially of stealing from that particular neighborhood and those involved knew it, I'm starting to care.
This has ZERO bearing on the events that lead to his death.
They didnt see him commit a crime. Period. It's factual.
Ergo, via the citizen's arrest statute for GA does not fit.
Tbh, you are normally one of the most logical individuals on this message board. I am having a hard time trying to understand how you are allowing events that are detached from this specific event to matter to you.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 12:34 pm to GRTiger
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These rednecks
By the way. I am amused at how much the people who love to scream racism throw the word rednecks around.
They were country white dudes.
All of you would shite your collective fricking pants if the roles were reversed and EVERY reference the black guys involved said "these n****s were following him and...…"
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