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re: so media is saying the video disproves Ahmad was a burglar
Posted on 5/8/20 at 12:40 pm to the808bass
Posted on 5/8/20 at 12:40 pm to the808bass
quote:
All of this is a wonderful flight of fancy wholly unconnected to our discussion.
I think it's pretty damned connected to the question "where is the stolen items" which several have asked, as if it is the Perry Mason clincher. Don't know if it is intentional, but you're coming off as an arrogant prick in this thread.
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Posted on 5/8/20 at 12:41 pm to ShortyRob
quote:
.then, later, you saw that same person running down your street...
As long as he is not on my property, I certainly would not confront him with a firearm in my hands... I most definitely would not get in my truck and attempt to chase him down...
I might call the cops and tell them that I saw him running through the neighborhood again... maybe they should take a look at him...
Where was the urgency for them to confront him coming from?
Posted on 5/8/20 at 12:42 pm to crazy4lsu
quote:
crazy4lsu
Again, for clarity for everyone
If you made me bet my money right now, I think that once a trial is held...…….it turns out that these white dudes did enough wrong that they end up convicted and, none of the possible mitigating factors suggested today turn out to exist. That would be what I would bet.
BUT...…..and this OUGHT to be obvious to EVERYONE.
WE
HAVE
BEEN
DOWN
THIS
ROAD
BEFORE
The media is VERY good at creating a narrative that we later learn left important shite out.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 12:42 pm to Strannix
He wasnt burglarizing at the time he was shot
Posted on 5/8/20 at 12:43 pm to ShortyRob
Rob,
Point to one piece of evidence or literally anything outside of pixel chasing that would deem in benefit of the two individuals charged currently?
Point to one piece of evidence or literally anything outside of pixel chasing that would deem in benefit of the two individuals charged currently?
Posted on 5/8/20 at 12:44 pm to crazy4lsu
quote:
LINK
The first paragraph alone undermines their claims of "immediate knowledge" of a crime, as they specifically state they started chasing him after they him "hauling arse."
Thanks for that.
Yea, according to their own testimony they didn't see him commit any crime, or even claim to have seen him committing any crime.
First degree murder imo.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 12:45 pm to ShortyRob
quote:
Says the guy trying to pretend the word redneck is being used in this scenario in much the same way some country singer might use it.
So you're convinced this board is over run with white on white racism?
It might be a derogatory term but it's certainly not a blanket racist term
Posted on 5/8/20 at 12:45 pm to 50_Tiger
quote:
ShortyRob
quote:
Tbh, you are normally one of the most logical individuals on this message board
If that’s the case, this message board has really gone to shite when ShortyRob is considered one of the most logical.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 12:46 pm to ShortyRob
The significance of the video is also related to the documentation. Why are there 2 shots referenced in the report when there are 3 shots in the video? Why is no mention of William Bryan's role in chasing the victim made in the police report? And why was there a complete lack of interest by the DA in the internal memo as to whether Arbery actually committed a crime that would satisfy the "immediate knowledge" portion of the citizens arrest law?
There are a lot of holes in the official documentation, and why none of these supposed robbery attempts reported is another question. The local authorities handled this tremendously poorly that they invited the intrigue upon themselves. The fact that there is absolutely no interest in the stolen goods from the authorities isn't just a slight oversight, because how else can the McMichael's possibly know that this particular time he had committed a crime, when the homeowner admitted only that Arbery was caught trespassing, not stealing.
There are a lot of holes in the official documentation, and why none of these supposed robbery attempts reported is another question. The local authorities handled this tremendously poorly that they invited the intrigue upon themselves. The fact that there is absolutely no interest in the stolen goods from the authorities isn't just a slight oversight, because how else can the McMichael's possibly know that this particular time he had committed a crime, when the homeowner admitted only that Arbery was caught trespassing, not stealing.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 12:46 pm to azcatiger
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When they jumped in their truck with shotguns they are simply idiot murderers....nothing more.
Georgia law would actually allow them to make a citizen's arrest had he just broke into their homes and robbed them.
Not that this is what happened, just saying just because you feel that way doesn't meant the courts will operate that way.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 12:47 pm to ShortyRob
Where do I put the stolen merchandise?do I jog home with it?
Posted on 5/8/20 at 12:47 pm to 50_Tiger
quote:
Point to one piece of evidence or literally anything outside of pixel chasing that would deem in benefit of the two individuals charged currently?
I can't.
And, I'm fine with them being charged.
Are you people capable of reading?
Posted on 5/8/20 at 12:48 pm to Powerman
quote:
It might be a derogatory term but it's certainly not a blanket racist term
Nothing is, though.
Even the most common racial slurs are used within those communities in a joking manner. It's not uncommon for a group to adopt a pejorative aimed at them as friendly banter amongst themselves.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 12:50 pm to Azkiger
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Even the most common racial slurs are used within those communities in a joking manner. It's not uncommon for a group to adopt a pejorative aimed at them as friendly banter amongst themselves.
Right. White people calling other country white people rednecks isn't really much of a racial slur.
It's more along the lines of these people being both country and dumb. And I think we have plenty of evidence to at least say they're dumb. And they appear to be country as well.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 12:50 pm to ShortyRob
quote:
BUT...…..and this OUGHT to be obvious to EVERYONE.
WE
HAVE
BEEN
DOWN
THIS
ROAD
BEFORE
The media is VERY good at creating a narrative that we later learn left important shite out.
My point relates to the curious nature of the official documentation. In fact, that is my source material for my questions, not any media portrayal. The documentation we do have doesn't suggest that the McMichael's had "immediate knowledge" of any crime, and begs the question as to why they didn't confront Arbery earlier, if they were sure that he was the burglar, as apparently this was the third time they had seen him, and the second time in person.
The video contradicts the police report, there is absolutely no interest in the stolen goods by the authorities, with barely even a reference, and the relationship McMichael had with the local authorities is going to complicate the ability of anyone to actually find out whether Arbery committed a crime.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 12:51 pm to Strannix
The video I saw showed Ahmad fighting with one of the idiots over his shotgun. It is sad that the world will always have 5% of its population being racist POS. They really did not know if Ahmad was the burglar but they did their stupid citizens arrest anyway. Racist fools!
Posted on 5/8/20 at 12:51 pm to crazy4lsu
quote:
The significance of the video is also related to the documentation. Why are there 2 shots referenced in the report when there are 3 shots in the video? Why is no mention of William Bryan's role in chasing the victim made in the police report? And why was there a complete lack of interest by the DA in the internal memo as to whether Arbery actually committed a crime that would satisfy the "immediate knowledge" portion of the citizens arrest law?
All good questions.
Alas, I think everyone in this thread and others can admit that they are also not questions that can be very effectively litigated here absent a LOT more info along with a trial.
I'm fine with them being charged based on what I've seen. Or, I guess in this case they're going to convene a Grand Jury, right? Either way. Fine
I am ONLY observing that for God's sake...……..can we ALL admit that we've beaten this path before and that it is VERY easy to create a narrative that turns out a lot more suspect as info comes out?
I mean. I'm sorry. Shouldn't we all know we can't trust that the media would have fully vetted your questions at this point?
Posted on 5/8/20 at 12:52 pm to crazy4lsu
quote:
And why was there a complete lack of interest by the DA in the internal memo as to whether Arbery actually committed a crime that would satisfy the "immediate knowledge" portion of the citizens arrest law?
This.
Without immediate knowledge of a felony committed by Ahmad, chasing and confronting him while armed gives him justification to stand his ground and fight back.
The fact this went 2 months before these guys were arrested screams that further investigation is needed in how this was handled.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 12:53 pm to ShortyRob
quote:
Shouldn't we all know we can't trust that the media would have fully vetted your questions at this point?
And both the rednecks and the brother can be in the wrong at the same time... however, the brother is the one that was hunted down and shot in the street... not a good look for the neighborhood watch...
Posted on 5/8/20 at 12:55 pm to MadtownTiger
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Also why did he initiate the fight?
What the frick are you on?
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