re: Should we dissolve the Army and Marines since no one wants boots on the ground ever again?

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.. it's like hiring an entire fire department and the fire department gets yelled at by the public for going to put out fires in buildings.

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Except the fire isn't even in your town and you're wondering why you're paying for it. And nobody is mad at the fire department, because the fire department didn't start the fire. Even with that in mind, kinda shite analogy.

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These people who signed up for the military knew exactly what they were getting into and I am 99.9% confident that they are all ready for the task

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Sure. They did, they do, and they are. I want the military for power projection and, if needed, defense. Someone attacks us? Sure go at it. Shock and awe.

I'm still not a fan of boots on the ground in Iran. This was sold as "liberating the people of Iran being crushed by the regime". These people haven't stepped up as of now. I don't want our guys dying for their cause.

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Yea.. it's like hiring an entire fire department and the fire department gets yelled at by the public for going to put out fires in buildings.

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It's more like people are wondering why the fire department is going to put out fires for some other town in a different country for billions of dollars, when the fire was started by that other town preemptively and then got out of control. And after we've been told several times that the fire is already out and no fire could ever be more thoroughly out and that everything has gone according to plan fire-wise. And the town charter says that there has to be a formal declaration of fire before the fire department can be called out, but everyone just ignores that, even people who claim to be for strict enforcement of the town charter in other contexts.

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Which other nations do we need to invade because they have the theoretical capability to attack Europe (or our allies elsewhere)? I just want to be clear on the criteria for wasting time, lives, money, and resources accomplishing short term goals.

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The next evil country that tries to develop nuclear weapons with a ballistic missile program. Right now Iran is the only one.

On the flip side of the coin, for the record, you’re good with a Totalitarian Radical Islamic Regime that chants “Death to America” standing as a permanent nuclear power?

All because you don’t want to use the military which consists of volunteers who are willing and able?

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So, now MAGA is 100% neocon ala Dick Cheney for forever wars and spending trillions overseas instead of investing the money back home. Good luck selling that platform to voters later this year and 2028. The backlash will be glorious.

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No shite. This whole new MAGA mantra of "those fricks knew what they were signing up for when they enlisted" in defending putting troops on the ground in Iran is absolutely fricking wild.

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What defines a country as evil?

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That’s self explanatory. If you can’t figure that one out you’ve got your head in the sand.

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No shite. This whole new mantra of "those fricks knew what they were signing up for when they enlisted" in defending putting troops on the ground in Iran is absolutely fricking wild.

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OP strikes me as the kind of prick who has told a cop "I pay your salary" before.

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Well give me some qualifiers. What kinds of things make a country evil? Because a lot of people would say that invading multiple countries for nefarious reasons is evil.

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Head stuck in the sand.

Thanks for playing.

So no answers.

That checks out.

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These people who signed up for the military knew exactly what they were getting into and I am 99.9% confident that they are all ready for the task

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I did 4 years during Trump’s first term. You don’t have a clue about what you are talking about.

Maybe 25% of the new enlistments sign up because they love the country.

Most just do it as a guaranteed job because they come from somewhere where the prospects are minimal and college just isn’t for them. Some do it to have their college paid for after and all the other great benefits (VA loan, disability, HC, etc.). And then you probably have about 25% who come from the hood and just want to buy a charger or Camaro.

And the saddest thing about the reality of our current situation is that the 25% who are the good ones and have family who served end up getting out because the enlisted leadership is mostly made up of those who stayed in for the wrong reasons.

It’s really that bad.

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No shite. This whole new mantra of "those fricks knew what they were signing up for when they enlisted" in defending putting troops on the ground in Iran is absolutely fricking wild.

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As someone replied in another thread, what would these same people have said if Biden had decided to do the same in Ukraine?

Situational principles.