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re: Shapiro "Trump did the right thing during Covid by leaving it up to the states"

Posted on 6/2/23 at 4:55 am to
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49543 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 4:55 am to
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He just funded the largest power grab the country has ever seen

SO he was supposed to know that the pharmaceutical industry was crooked too??

AND he was supposed to be instantly aware of the traitorous Fauci who had been a fixture of the medical establishment for a quarter century??

AND he was supposed to be able to overwhelm the fanaticism of the media who were fellating anything the DEMs told them to, and damning to hell anything Trump tried to do??

And where, pray tell, was he supposed to have obtained all this insight other than to watch it unfold over time - which he did - and proposed the most 'fail safe' response that could be constructed with the flawed governmental powers he had - all of which were actively working to sabotage ANYTHING that he tried to do.

He was supposed to do all that?
Are you suggesting that:
1) he had the power to do that, and
2) he had the foundational expertise to individually override the entire federal medical operatives who were under historical control of his adversaries, and
3) the public would have accepted his 'dictatorial' usurpation of the powers of entire, long established, public health control bureaucracies??

Are you not aware that the man could not even show his face without the entire media/political/university/karen establishment going into 'DICTATOR!!!! mode in the wake of ANY announcement he made??

And were you not aware of the upcoming ELECTION that was the actual basis for having this ungodly "PANDEMIC!!!!" unleashed on the public by the colluding DNC/media/China/Medical cabal??

I think he acted masterfully - if not in hindsight the most effectively.

In other words you are complaining that he was not a SAVIOR who had UNIQUE powers which he REFUSED to use that were OBVIOUS to everyone at the time.

yeah - right - dream on.
Posted by lsufan112001
sportsmans paradise
Member since Oct 2006
11217 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 4:59 am to
And across the board the media said everyone was gonna die without a vaccine. Exactly what choice did he have but to not at least do something.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49543 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 5:03 am to
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Trump needs to take a shitload of heat over it. You can recognize he fricked up by constantly letting Fauci drive the narratives about covid, but still support him.

on what basis could he have accomplished that WITHOUT declaring dictatorial power over the entire medical universe????

I was as skeptical as anyone in the world when this virus first erupted. I had great suspicion that it was all a planned attack.

But what EVIDENCE did I have? Where do you turn to get the proper evidence??

Every dedicated authority the government had were all IN ON THE PLAN to sabatage the government in preparation for their election shenanigans.

BUT - other than assuming DICTATOR status - what else could he have done??

Please don't use 'Well we know NOW that ......."

Tell us what you knew THEN - and HOW you 'knew' it.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49543 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 5:06 am to
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rmnldr

back up any of your inane accusations by defining WHAT should have been done WHEN based on what AUTHORITY and EVIDENCE that was available at the TIME.

or shut the fukc up
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
157973 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 5:10 am to
Why didn’t he remove Fauchi from the team Trump assembled and made Fauchi the chief?
Posted by pankReb
Defending National Champs Fan
Member since Mar 2009
73098 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 5:34 am to
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Why didn’t he remove Fauchi from the team Trump assembled and made Fauchi the chief?


It's entertaining as hell watching how many times this gets asked with no actual answer ever given.
Posted by pankReb
Defending National Champs Fan
Member since Mar 2009
73098 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 5:36 am to
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And across the board the media said everyone was gonna die without a vaccine. Exactly what choice did he have but to not at least do something.


UPDATE: listening to what the media tells you = good

Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
55762 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 5:38 am to
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He is correct, but Trump's biggest mistake was not firing Fauchi and Birx. His nuts were in a vice on this one though so I can see why he didn't.


If Trump fires Fauci, Birx and Collins I can guarantee another shampeachment.
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
10109 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 6:19 am to
I don’t recall trump leading by saying “we have enough data now to know that the shots are not a vaccine, but a treatment. In the big picture the shots only help people who are old, or sick, or both. Others should live their lives, get Covid, get real immunity, and move on with their lives and their work. We won’t be printing money and throwing it at healthy people simply because they can fog a mirror”
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
40308 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 6:43 am to
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back up any of your inane accusations by defining WHAT should have been done WHEN based on what AUTHORITY and EVIDENCE that was available at the TIME.


Is it an insane accusation to say that rushing a vaccine past safety protocols is a bad thing?

Or a health director or who flip flopped multiple times, gave bad info, and was no longer following scientific data should’ve been relieved of his position?

Or that a President shouldn’t be bragging about how much money they made for pharmaceutical companies?

Or maybe that Trump could’ve done more to stop the BLM race riots than just tweeting “LAW AND ORDER”??

I swear
This post was edited on 6/2/23 at 6:44 am
Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
11310 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 6:49 am to
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Did nothing to stop the “summer of love” (but it wasn’t muh trump’s fault!)


State,not federal issue. Trump would have made a huge mistake to unilaterally send in any military to suppress the riots. He always, always offered.

He's not my favorite politician, but he reacted to this civil matter like the President should.
Posted by Pezzo
Member since Aug 2020
3008 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 6:54 am to
Did Trump mandate it?
Posted by Zap Rowsdower
MissLou, La
Member since Sep 2010
16221 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 6:57 am to
I agree that everything else you posted is definitely a damn good example of hindsight being 20/20


quote:

SO he was supposed to know that the pharmaceutical industry was crooked too??


But this right here I thought was a given by pretty much everyone long before COVID and the shot
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44313 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 7:12 am to
Why are you applying logic and common sense?

Clearly TROLLUS24x7 has it all figured out. There is plenty to shite on Trump about, this isn’t it imho.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44313 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 7:13 am to
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But this right here I thought was a given by pretty much everyone long before COVID and the shot


Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
48427 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 7:17 am to
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Tell us what you knew THEN - and HOW you 'knew' it.


China banning all domestic air travel while continuing to allow international air travel was a huge red flag for me. So was Nancy Pelosi telling everyone to go celebrate in Chinatown right after covid started. The Pelosi quote in particular was a sign to me that our politicians knew it wasn't that serious.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128845 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 7:24 am to
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And across the board the media said everyone was gonna die without a vaccine. Exactly what choice did he have but to not at least do something.


The media says a lot of things.

They say America is a systemically racist country that needs to be fundamentally changed. Does the President have to go along with that or get in deep trouble? Or is one of the fundamental jobs of a Republican President (or any President to the right of Stalin) to create and sustain a narrative that gives life to a better and more perfect picture of what America is and can be?
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
19467 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 7:25 am to

This post was edited on 6/11/23 at 4:19 pm
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128845 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 7:27 am to
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Did Trump mandate it?


It was mandated by CMS. CMS is part of HHS. Who does the director of HHS report to?
Posted by DotBling
Member since Oct 2019
3166 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 7:44 am to
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Under his Presidency, every worker for every agency that accepts Medicare or Medicaid as payment had to get vaccinated.


False
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