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re: Screenshots of the pistol discharging in the agent's hand
Posted on 1/26/26 at 9:25 am to GhostOfFreedom
Posted on 1/26/26 at 9:25 am to GhostOfFreedom
That's a great video. Thank you for sharing.
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Posted on 1/26/26 at 9:25 am to ChineseBandit58
The clearest videos show agents firing multiple shots at the guy after he’s disarmed and almost in a prone position…
Posted on 1/26/26 at 9:27 am to TX Tiger
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You seem to be the arbiter of truth. What exactly is your “reasonable conclusion.”
He’s already spelled it out thoroughly for you asswipe.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 9:29 am to VOR
4 seconds between the first and last shot is not a lot of time to second guess by the officers involved
Posted on 1/26/26 at 9:31 am to Gee Grenouille
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Perhaps someone coordinating this stuff suggested that pistol, and got exactly what they wanted.
Come on! There was probably a one in a million chance that gun goes off accidentally. No one plans for a possibility like that.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 9:33 am to SlowFlowPro
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and there are rumblings that Homan and ICE are getting tired of their frickups.
This sounds very fabricated.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 9:41 am to idlewatcher
Yes
The sourse is considered
The sourse is considered
Posted on 1/26/26 at 9:52 am to VOR
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The clearest videos show agents firing multiple shots at the guy after he’s disarmed and almost in a prone position…
The guy doing the shooting is the first and only guy to draw his weapon. You can see his reaction when the other agent unholsters the dead guy’s weapon. That’s where the confusion begins. He clearly steps closer into the pile searching for the weapon he has just seen a right hand quickly retrieve.. He circles around and as he does the weapon discharges. His position is now behind the guy who is in a prone position with his hands low and concealed in front of him. That is when he fires the fatal shots.
I really don’t know what else he was expected to do. He’s the one visibly reacting to a weapon and his actions from that moment indicate he believed the guy on the ground had it. How can you fault him for reacting to the gun shot.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 9:56 am to theronswanson
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He wasn’t looking for a fight
Are you clinically retarded?
He was obstructing federal agents - 1st felony
He assaulted a federal agent when he got between the agent and the other protestor - 2nd felony
He resisted arrest - 3rd felony
his whole point of existence that day was to fight. Fight the Nazi fascists, fight the power, fight the occupation, etc. Don't be a fricking moron.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 9:58 am to TX Tiger
You throw around triggered as if you are the arbiter of such things.
Weird.
I find your delusions entertaining. Far from triggered. What cult am I in by the way?
Weird.
I find your delusions entertaining. Far from triggered. What cult am I in by the way?
This post was edited on 1/26/26 at 10:00 am
Posted on 1/26/26 at 10:00 am to Blizzard of Chizz
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really don’t know what else he was expected to do. He’s the one visibly reacting to a weapon and his actions from that moment indicate he believed the guy on the ground had it. How can you fault him for reacting to the gun shot.
Wound be easy to mistake a black phone in his hand as a gun, after knowing the guy has a gun
Posted on 1/26/26 at 10:02 am to Flats
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I think it's equally likely that the agent fat-fingered the trigger, but I've not gone deep into the Sig stuff.
You can see in the images I posted he’s clearly holding it by the grip and his finger is not on the trigger.. From the sig videos I’ve watched on the defect of the gun, I’m putting my money on the way the officer is running and kind of swinging his arm as being the culprit. Apparently the slide has a lot of play in it. Could the momentum of the gun being swung in a downward fashion be enough to discharge it?
Posted on 1/26/26 at 10:03 am to Gee Grenouille
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These protests aren't protests, they're coordinated efforts.
Aren’t all protest coordinated efforts???…
Posted on 1/26/26 at 10:09 am to Blizzard of Chizz
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he agent who killed the guy was observing the pile most of the video. The agent in the slides comes in behind the pile and unholsters the weapon with his right hand. In the confusion I believe the agent mistook this to be the guy on the ground unholstering the weapon. He immediately pulls his pistol and appears to step in closer, presumably looking for the weapon. As he circles around, the weapon discharges, but he's still under the false assumption that the perp has it. He is now positioned behind the guy, but he cant see his hands because they are low and in front of the guy. The officer opens fire believing the guy to be in possession of the weapon that just fired.
I think you are right....
Posted on 1/26/26 at 10:46 am to Clames
quote:this is true. That interaction lasted all of two seconds before he was maced and he went to assist the lady and was then drug off and pounded on by several agents.
You are full of shite certainly. Not like there isn't video and images of him directly confronting agents and putting himself into the situation.
Did he put himself in a precarious position? Yes.
There are also images of one particular officer executing him (unarmed) with a shot to the head or top of his back.
This post was edited on 1/26/26 at 10:47 am
Posted on 1/26/26 at 10:52 am to hogcard1964
quote:So, they should have actually shot the agent with the gun that was firing it? Because he was the actual threat
Police officers are trained to shoot until the threat has stopped, not for a specific number of rounds.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 10:53 am to theronswanson
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He wasn’t looking for a fight. It was these poorly trained ICE agents who approached him and escalated the situation.
Yeah... just a normal guy caring his new toy (known to accidentally discharge) into a hostile situation.
If you insert yourself into a police incident that doesn't involve you, you assume the risk. I side with the officers in those scenarios... always.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 10:53 am to TX Tiger
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His stupidity didn’t cause his murder. Stupidity of the undertrained and panicked ICE agents were the cause.
He didn’t shoot himself.
No. Everyone wants to cry when shite like this happens ,but you have to put the accountability where it belongs. He went beyond protesting and was physically fighting with law enforcement and he put them in a position where they have to make a split second decision, they screamed gun, gun, gun and a gun went off and he got what he got. These are lawful operations, the left is throwing a tantrum ,and I have no sympathy.
This post was edited on 1/26/26 at 10:56 am
Posted on 1/26/26 at 10:59 am to stelly1025
quote:Wrong. Law enforcement threw him on the ground and piled on top of him. It's all there in the video.
His stupidity didn’t cause his murder. Stupidity of the undertrained and panicked ICE agents were the cause.
He didn’t shoot himself.
No. Everyone wants to cry when shite like this happens ,but you have to put the accountability where it belongs. He went beyond protesting and was physically fighting with law enforcement
quote:Harassing and murdering U.S. citizens is not lawful operations, unless of course you advocate for a Police State.
These are lawful operations,
Posted on 1/26/26 at 11:00 am to TX Tiger
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Wrong. Law enforcement threw him on the ground and piled on top of him. It's all there in the video.
Why go to protest removing illegals?
Simple question
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