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re: RCP: FBI quietly edits crime stats, crime is actually +4.5%, not -2.1%

Posted on 10/16/24 at 8:57 am to
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
24920 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 8:57 am to
I tell you, I am very shocked.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47575 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 8:59 am to
The entire talking point he’s defending was built around FBI crime statistics that they themselves have now revealed were underreported. But don’t hold your breath waiting for SFPs mea culpa. All you’ll get is 37 pages of gaslighting and insults.
Posted by tigerfan 64
in the LP
Member since Sep 2016
6467 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 8:59 am to
quote:

SFP told me crime is down 

Yet another failed moderate talking point.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
167471 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 9:00 am to
The FBI has done this outright twice now. So it is direct evidence they are political.

No one holds them accountable but a sternly worded letter or a repetitive boring diatribe of Sean Hannity.
Posted by Gifman
Clearwater Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2021
18895 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 9:00 am to
quote:

The entire talking point he’s defending was built around FBI crime statistics that they themselves have now revealed were underreported. But don’t hold your breath waiting for SFPs mea culpa. All you’ll get is 37 pages of gaslighting and insults.



His go-to strategy when he's been proven wrong is creating a false argument (that no one has made) then arguing against that argument. It's like clockwork. Stay tuned for more of that in this thread.
Posted by Marshhen
Port Eads
Member since Nov 2018
1044 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 9:04 am to
quote:

2023 typically saw declines too


Until the FBI revises the numbers to reflect the real numbers next year.
Posted by LegalEazyE
Madison, Wisconsin
Member since Nov 2023
6292 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 9:09 am to
And make no mistake... that 4.5% is way under reported.It's significantly higher.
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
24650 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 9:09 am to
quote:

We all know crime was going up in 2022

Everyone knew this except the fbi?
Posted by LegalEazyE
Madison, Wisconsin
Member since Nov 2023
6292 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 9:10 am to
quote:


quote:
Violent crime is down cause its not being reported!

In 2024

Not 2022

You do realize you're (a) supporting the FBI data now and (b) a higher increase in 2022 means an even larger % drop in 2024?


JFC
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47575 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 9:12 am to
But we are supposed to believe the same FBI when they say crime was down last year? When we KNOW big blue cities are underreporting or failing to report altogether.
Posted by Paddyshack
Land of the Free
Member since Sep 2015
11063 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 9:12 am to
quote:

SFP told me crime is down



SFP is officially the Oweo of Poliboard.

And he is still in here arguing crime is down
Posted by Paddyshack
Land of the Free
Member since Sep 2015
11063 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 9:13 am to
quote:

We all know crime was going up in 2022 Everyone knew this except the fbi?

And SlowFlowProgressive
Posted by LegalEazyE
Madison, Wisconsin
Member since Nov 2023
6292 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 9:15 am to
quote:


So what you are saying is “ ACTUALLY “…

Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47575 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 9:19 am to
Apparently everyone knew the FBI was underreporting in 2022, but not 2023 or now.

SFPMath
Posted by LegalEazyE
Madison, Wisconsin
Member since Nov 2023
6292 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 9:25 am to
If you live anywhere or near anywhere that is a large population center with traditionally higher crime, you know crime is not down. Not even close. Then go online and look for videos of those street takeovers that are wreaking havoc across the country... Holy shite. And the mainstream news NEVER reports on those and I think we know why. Those things are regularly hundreds to thousands of people, taking over an intersection, highway/interstate etc., a large number of those in the vehicles and in attendance are brandishing weapons or at least illegally concealing weapons, they light shite on fire, people get taken out by vehicles, there are fights, shootings etc. Not to mention the vehicle theft in places like New Orleans... and carjackings... it seems like random, excessively violent attacks on white people and Asians have increased exponentially. I know a few different women who have been randomly sucker punched or attacked by black pandhandlers in places like D.C... Armed robberies, car jackings etc are all out of control... the flash mob robberies.

But don't believe your eyes. Trust the government and city administrators who don't want to look bad when they tell you crime is down and you are safer than you've ever been.

This post was edited on 10/16/24 at 9:35 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476854 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 9:43 am to
quote:

One of the big reasons no one on here respects you is that, once you take your contrarian little position, you’ll argue on it forever and never admit you were wrong- even when you clearly are.

But I'm not. Why would I admit I'm wrong when I'm not?

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476854 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 9:44 am to
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Absolutely on brand.


LINK

quote:

Crime spiked due to Covid but has been dropping since some time in 2022 or early 2023.


Being consistent (and correct) is on brand, yes.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476854 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 9:44 am to
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The entire talking point he’s defending was built around FBI crime statistics that they themselves have now revealed were underreported.


Not even. I've posted directly form the cities themselves, not the FBI report.

Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
104053 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 9:45 am to
quote:

The new data includes thousands more murders, rapes, robberies, and aggravated assaults.


“Qualifications?”

“Rape, murder, arson, and rape.”
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
104053 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 9:46 am to
quote:

Everyone knew this except the fbi?


“You ask for miracles, Theo? I give you the F… B… I!”
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