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re: RCP: FBI quietly edits crime stats, crime is actually +4.5%, not -2.1%

Posted on 10/16/24 at 10:48 am to
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47575 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 10:48 am to
frick your questions

What’s the point? You’ve been owned in every hole and you refuse to go away. You’ll hang around forever insisting that you’re never wrong. It’s your entire Identity.
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
41553 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 10:53 am to
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We'll have to wait to see the revisions for 2023-2024 to make that claim. We can't assume revisions in the future that haven't happened. They don't always go up (but they're more likely to go up in periods of increasing crime).


This is correct

HOWEVER, this instance of revising the 2022 data after the fact does put a big chink in your armor. You are quick to jump in any crime thread to point out crime is decreasing, and at the base of your claims if anyone argues far enough, it is discovered the claim is based on FBI modeling to replace unreported or non gathered data.

So this thread is a great example of why you shouldn’t act so sure of yourself when debunking naysayers. If the 2023 data is revised next year are you going to come back and do anything other than make excuses?

Sure, you won’t be wrong, but it destroys the credibility of the tools you use for argument, and that is very relevant.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47575 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 10:59 am to
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We'll have to wait to see the revisions for 2023-2024 to make that claim. We can't assume revisions in the future that haven't happened.


Yet you get to assume, in spite of their own record of revisions and other reporting, that the initial numbers are correct? Then argue endlessly like a retard with everyone about it?

Further, we are supposed to allow a presidential candidate and media to make incredibly questionable claims, consider them fact checked, thereby manipulating an election?

How tf does THAT work?
This post was edited on 10/16/24 at 11:06 am
Posted by Gifman
Clearwater Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2021
18896 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 11:03 am to
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You’ll hang around forever insisting that you’re never wrong. It’s your entire Identity.


This explains why SFP has no life outside of this board and whatever made up job he says he has.
Posted by TN Tygah
Member since Nov 2023
7837 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 11:03 am to
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"Why is black people arrested and incarcerated at such higher rates than YT's?! " Well, because facts.


Hey you don’t have to convince me. A good portion of us grew up in NOLA.

Most people didn’t. Most people’s opinion is based on Django and 12 Years a Slave. We’d probably be mindlessly white knighting too.

One thing I’ll say, though, it seems like more people are on the reasonable side today than yesterday. A lot of this I base on social media comments, which sounds stupid, but it’s the only place where “regular people” consistently chime in with no filter and aren’t really afraid to do so.
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
16880 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 11:09 am to
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Find a post where I discuss this issue without reference to that period of crime increase
look at this clown flip-flopping everywhere. Its hilarious
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
24650 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 11:10 am to
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And SlowFlowProgressive


This is him every time he hits submit. His self worth is derived from “winning” arguments on the internet lol

Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
16880 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 11:14 am to
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And he is still in here arguing crime is down
while ALSO arguing that hell everyone knew it was up
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
16880 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 11:15 am to
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But I'm not. Why would I admit I'm wrong when I'm not?
You're getting dragged. Just take the L and for once STFU
Posted by Paddyshack
Land of the Free
Member since Sep 2015
11063 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 11:19 am to
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Only if you argue that the data showing this decrease is fake.

And if its fake, then we can't have this discussion, because there is nothing to establish veracity to take a side in the discussion itself. It's all fake.


You stupid frick. We have been telling you the data is fake all along.

And you argued incessantly that it isn't fake by sharing more fake data.

- Common sense (this is critical to understanding why crime is up, so I don't expect you'll ever get it)
- Paying attention to the real world around you, i.e. people are more desperate to get by/provide for their family/survive AND they are enabled to commit crimes under this administration, especially certain demographics
- Allowing 10s of millions of unvetted migrants from 150 countries to pour into the country, many of whom hate us Americans and have ties to the CCP/isalmic terrorists/South American gangs/etc

This is how everyone, except you and the FBI, knows that crime isn't down.
This post was edited on 10/16/24 at 11:20 am
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
19514 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 11:23 am to
We need an SFP "moving the goal posts" emoji.

Chicken, can you get one of your bright interns on that?

Thanks from the board SFP ego sufferers.
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
16880 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 11:26 am to
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If the 2023 data is revised next year are you going to come back and do anything other than make excuses?
he will come back and say that of course he said crime was up/down in 2023 (depending on the revision)
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
41318 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 11:27 am to
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His self worth is derived from “winning” arguments on the internet lol


Yep. He doesn’t win in the court room so gets off to internet arguments
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476874 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 11:38 am to
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frick your questions

Very on brand.

And you said I don't engage honestly

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476874 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 11:39 am to
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HOWEVER, this instance of revising the 2022 data after the fact does put a big chink in your armor

No it doesn't. I said crime increased in 2022.

In the post you quoted:

quote:

but they're more likely to go up in periods of increasing crime


quote:

You are quick to jump in any crime thread to point out crime is decreasing

Crime today is decreasing. Not in 2022

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t is discovered the claim is based on FBI modeling

Actually I skip the FBI and report directly from the cities.

Posted by AUauditor
Georgia
Member since Sep 2004
1703 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 12:13 pm to
I await Doocy bringing this up to KJP in the near future...that will be fun.
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
20917 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 12:21 pm to
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Crime today is decreasing. Not in 2022
I have no doubt at all you’re stupid enough to believe that.

When the data gets revised (again) to show how wrong you are (again) you’ll just change topics (again) to avoid facing how wrong you are…..again.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
68447 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 12:34 pm to
Whoopsie daisy
Posted by LSUnKaty
Katy, TX
Member since Dec 2008
4900 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 12:42 pm to
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We all know crime was going up in 2022

The FBI apparently didn't.
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
20917 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 12:59 pm to
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The FBI apparently didn't.
Of course they knew.

But telling the truth would have been inconvenient. Can’t have that.
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