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RCP: FBI quietly edits crime stats, crime is actually +4.5%, not -2.1%

Posted on 10/16/24 at 8:27 am
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 10/16/24 at 8:27 am


LINK

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When the FBI originally released the “final” crime data for 2022 in September 2023, it reported that the nation’s violent crime rate fell by 2.1%. This quickly became, and remains, a Democratic Party talking point to counter Donald Trump’s claims of soaring crime.

But the FBI has quietly revised those numbers, releasing new data that shows violent crime increased in 2022 by 4.5%. The new data includes thousands more murders, rapes, robberies, and aggravated assaults.

The Bureau – which has been at the center of partisan storms – made no mention of these revisions in its September 2024 press release.

RCI discovered the change through a cryptic reference on the FBI website that states: “The 2022 violent crime rate has been updated for inclusion in CIUS, 2023.” But there is no mention that the numbers increased. One only sees the change by downloading the FBI’s new crime data and comparing it to the file released last year.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
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Posted on 10/16/24 at 8:28 am to
SFP told me crime is down
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476658 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 8:28 am to
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crime data for 2022


We all know crime was going up in 2022

Why doe the post make it seem like they're talking about 2024?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476658 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 8:29 am to
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SFP told me crime is down

Not in 2022. I have said the exact opposite
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
98042 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 8:30 am to
Of course you do. Violent crime is down cause its not being reported! - SFP
Posted by John Barron
The Mar-a-Lago Club
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Posted on 10/16/24 at 8:30 am to
Folks, Crime is down
Posted by Gifman
Clearwater Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 10/16/24 at 8:31 am to
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Why doe the post make it seem like they're talking about 2024?


are you claiming to know the crime stats for 2024? it is October.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476658 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 8:31 am to
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Violent crime is down cause its not being reported!

In 2024

Not 2022

You do realize you're (a) supporting the FBI data now and (b) a higher increase in 2022 means an even larger % drop in 2024?
Posted by canyon
MM23
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 10/16/24 at 8:31 am to
Look at the stars. Look at them. Look at them. Okay.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476658 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 8:31 am to
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are you claiming to know the crime stats for 2024?

I've posted various city data from 2024 in these discussions.

Cities have a pretty good idea of their violent crime data in real time.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
86171 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 8:32 am to
Slow His Roll will be here in milliseconds to say ACTUALLY in 476 creative new gaslighting ways.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
23014 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 8:33 am to
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We all know crime was going up in 2022


Do we? Because there are hundreds of headlines saying Trump is lying about crime being up in those years. Politi"fact" even cited this exact FBI statistic to "debunk" Trump's claim of a rise in crime:

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Donald Trump said violent crime spiked 43% under Biden-Harris. That ignores reams of data.

If Your Time is short

The National Crime Victimization Survey, which the Justice Department conducts annually, shows a 43% increase in violent crime from 2020 to 2022. But another federal source shows the opposite picture.

The FBI’s annual data from 2020 to 2022 shows a decline in violent crime, as does the FBI’s preliminary data for 2023. Multiple nongovernmental crime statistics analyses also found violent crime declined in 2023 and 2024.

See the sources for this fact-check

Posted by John Barron
The Mar-a-Lago Club
Member since Sep 2024
17101 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 8:34 am to
In reality we all know it is higher than this. They all of a sudden found some murders that were missing The FBI "data modeling" guys are just sitting back laughing their arse off at all this
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476658 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 8:35 am to
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Slow His Roll will be here in milliseconds to say ACTUALLY in 476 creative new gaslighting ways.


2022 is in the "post Covid spike" time period

Find a post where I discuss this issue without reference to that period of crime increase
This post was edited on 10/16/24 at 8:36 am
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 10/16/24 at 8:36 am to
Cities run by which party in a huge election year?
Posted by Nosevens
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Posted on 10/16/24 at 8:37 am to
He’s a special kind of person.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476658 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 8:37 am to
quote:

Cities run by which party in a huge election year?

2023 typically saw declines too

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476658 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 8:37 am to
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He’s a special kind of person.


Relying on facts is special on here these days
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 10/16/24 at 8:38 am to
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We all know crime was going up in 2022 Why doe the post make it seem like they're talking about 2024?


The point is that, to nobody’s surprise, they are liars and cooking the books
Posted by SCTmo
Des Moines
Member since Aug 2007
3019 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 8:40 am to
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Relying on facts is special on here these days


Would you concede that "facts" aren't facts if they're reported incorrectly?
This post was edited on 10/16/24 at 8:41 am
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