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RCP: FBI quietly edits crime stats, crime is actually +4.5%, not -2.1%
Posted on 10/16/24 at 8:27 am
Posted on 10/16/24 at 8:27 am
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When the FBI originally released the “final” crime data for 2022 in September 2023, it reported that the nation’s violent crime rate fell by 2.1%. This quickly became, and remains, a Democratic Party talking point to counter Donald Trump’s claims of soaring crime.
But the FBI has quietly revised those numbers, releasing new data that shows violent crime increased in 2022 by 4.5%. The new data includes thousands more murders, rapes, robberies, and aggravated assaults.
The Bureau – which has been at the center of partisan storms – made no mention of these revisions in its September 2024 press release.
RCI discovered the change through a cryptic reference on the FBI website that states: “The 2022 violent crime rate has been updated for inclusion in CIUS, 2023.” But there is no mention that the numbers increased. One only sees the change by downloading the FBI’s new crime data and comparing it to the file released last year.
Posted on 10/16/24 at 8:28 am to Ingeniero
SFP told me crime is down 
Posted on 10/16/24 at 8:28 am to Ingeniero
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crime data for 2022
We all know crime was going up in 2022
Why doe the post make it seem like they're talking about 2024?
Posted on 10/16/24 at 8:29 am to SDVTiger
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SFP told me crime is down
Not in 2022. I have said the exact opposite
Posted on 10/16/24 at 8:30 am to SlowFlowPro
Of course you do. Violent crime is down cause its not being reported! - SFP
Posted on 10/16/24 at 8:31 am to SlowFlowPro
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Why doe the post make it seem like they're talking about 2024?
are you claiming to know the crime stats for 2024? it is October.
Posted on 10/16/24 at 8:31 am to SDVTiger
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Violent crime is down cause its not being reported!
In 2024
Not 2022
You do realize you're (a) supporting the FBI data now and (b) a higher increase in 2022 means an even larger % drop in 2024?
Posted on 10/16/24 at 8:31 am to Ingeniero
Look at the stars. Look at them. Look at them. Okay.
Posted on 10/16/24 at 8:31 am to Gifman
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are you claiming to know the crime stats for 2024?
I've posted various city data from 2024 in these discussions.
Cities have a pretty good idea of their violent crime data in real time.
Posted on 10/16/24 at 8:32 am to Ingeniero
Slow His Roll will be here in milliseconds to say ACTUALLY in 476 creative new gaslighting ways.
Posted on 10/16/24 at 8:33 am to SlowFlowPro
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We all know crime was going up in 2022
Do we? Because there are hundreds of headlines saying Trump is lying about crime being up in those years. Politi"fact" even cited this exact FBI statistic to "debunk" Trump's claim of a rise in crime:
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Donald Trump said violent crime spiked 43% under Biden-Harris. That ignores reams of data.
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The National Crime Victimization Survey, which the Justice Department conducts annually, shows a 43% increase in violent crime from 2020 to 2022. But another federal source shows the opposite picture.
The FBI’s annual data from 2020 to 2022 shows a decline in violent crime, as does the FBI’s preliminary data for 2023. Multiple nongovernmental crime statistics analyses also found violent crime declined in 2023 and 2024.
See the sources for this fact-check
Posted on 10/16/24 at 8:34 am to Ingeniero
In reality we all know it is higher than this. They all of a sudden found some murders that were missing
The FBI "data modeling" guys are just sitting back laughing their arse off at all this
Posted on 10/16/24 at 8:35 am to Lsupimp
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Slow His Roll will be here in milliseconds to say ACTUALLY in 476 creative new gaslighting ways.
2022 is in the "post Covid spike" time period
Find a post where I discuss this issue without reference to that period of crime increase
This post was edited on 10/16/24 at 8:36 am
Posted on 10/16/24 at 8:36 am to SlowFlowPro
Cities run by which party in a huge election year?
Posted on 10/16/24 at 8:37 am to SDVTiger
He’s a special kind of person.
Posted on 10/16/24 at 8:37 am to goatmilker
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Cities run by which party in a huge election year?
2023 typically saw declines too
Posted on 10/16/24 at 8:37 am to Nosevens
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He’s a special kind of person.
Relying on facts is special on here these days
Posted on 10/16/24 at 8:38 am to SlowFlowPro
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We all know crime was going up in 2022 Why doe the post make it seem like they're talking about 2024?
The point is that, to nobody’s surprise, they are liars and cooking the books
Posted on 10/16/24 at 8:40 am to SlowFlowPro
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Relying on facts is special on here these days
Would you concede that "facts" aren't facts if they're reported incorrectly?
This post was edited on 10/16/24 at 8:41 am
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