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re: Rand Paul wants you to be 70 before you can draw Social Security

Posted on 11/1/25 at 2:59 pm to
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
57100 posts
Posted on 11/1/25 at 2:59 pm to
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It might. Things have changed.


Fair. And that’s your call. I just don’t see it very often.
Posted by LSUtoBOOT
Member since Aug 2012
19248 posts
Posted on 11/1/25 at 3:01 pm to
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Yes it's always been a scam Time to phase it out

Give me my money back, including what my employer paid, with a modest 4% interest and get rid of it.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
38081 posts
Posted on 11/1/25 at 3:05 pm to
Just pay out what is owed to people and then get rid of it completely.

The biggest savings from raising it will be not paying out all the people who die before then.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41824 posts
Posted on 11/1/25 at 3:09 pm to
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Fair. And that’s your call. I just don’t see it very often.


It won’t be my choice, it would be theirs.

Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
38521 posts
Posted on 11/1/25 at 3:23 pm to
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The life expectancy for an American today is 78.4 years. So he wants Americans to enjoy only 8 years of peace (if you’re lucky) before you die.
That's misleading. 78.4 (actually 77.5 as of 2022) is life expectancy...at birth. If you take as a given that someone lives to 70, the actuarial tables show something like 85 as their life expectancy from there (84 for men, 86 for women).

15 years of SS doesn't seem unreasonable to me.
Posted by Ostrich
Alexandria, VA
Member since Nov 2011
10165 posts
Posted on 11/1/25 at 3:27 pm to
quote:

The life expectancy for an American today is 78.4 years


What is it for Americans that live to atleast the age of 18 (working age)?
This post was edited on 11/1/25 at 3:28 pm
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
19546 posts
Posted on 11/1/25 at 3:41 pm to
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People can be as mad as they want about this but something has to be done to it

I’m starting to get older and it would impact me. I understand what needs to be done for the future of my children/the country. It has to be done.
Posted by mb6355
Member since Apr 2020
228 posts
Posted on 11/1/25 at 3:44 pm to
How else do you expect them to give money to illegals and all the other grifters and bureaucrats that don't contribute to the system or pay taxes. You have to raise the retirement age.
This post was edited on 11/1/25 at 3:50 pm
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
26323 posts
Posted on 11/1/25 at 3:49 pm to
Just have a lump sum option and collect at any age you want. Obviously the longer you pay in the bigger you lump sum would be.
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
23150 posts
Posted on 11/1/25 at 3:59 pm to
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It's my money, I worked for it... Welfare recipients get other people's money.




Jesus. Do none of you idiots know how this pyramid works?
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
57100 posts
Posted on 11/1/25 at 4:02 pm to
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Jesus. Do none of you idiots know how this pyramid works?


Of course they know how it works. Doesn’t change the fact they put money in. What is your point?
Posted by Riggle
Member since Feb 2013
4593 posts
Posted on 11/1/25 at 4:03 pm to
Or you could raise the tax at a miniscule rate to maintain benefits.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125514 posts
Posted on 11/1/25 at 4:04 pm to
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15 years of SS doesn't seem unreasonable to me.


The concept isn’t the problem.

The math/money is.

You either reduce payments, increase SS taxes or increase retirement age or some combination thereof.
This post was edited on 11/1/25 at 4:05 pm
Posted by Westbank111
Armpit of America
Member since Sep 2013
4590 posts
Posted on 11/1/25 at 4:35 pm to
The biggest Ponzi scheme in the history of the world.

They truly hate our guts and they will only change with pushback and eventual brute force from the tax payers.

We are so fricked!

Until I see them drop Israel off our our Tit & protection, I’m out on Trump too.

Although he’s obviously doing some major things to help the country, until we get away from this Israeli control, we are screwed and will never experience our true potential wealth.

We are legit paying to prop up the entire world with all their bullshite tranny and homo movement to weaken the entire world to the core.

We are paying for them to spray the air with a known toxin that has been tested on male frogs that turn them into females.

WTF!!! And all you idiots on this board supporting the globalist regime need to WTFU, this ain’t no game, your selling out our future generations. Quit with the BS & do some research and quit listening to the propaganda & fake news.

This Muslim movement is a clear and present danger in itself & you liberal idiots have no idea what you’re supporting. Any group of people that openly and arrogantly says they are here to take over and “we” as in any American doesn’t assimilate to them, they will kill us.

What part of that you idiots like SFP, PowerlessMan, and all you other cucks don’t understand? You may not see the full takeover in your lifetime, but what a POS to sell your offspring and/or anyone else’s future lineage to deal with that.

Look at Dearborn, Michigan, that’s what their plan is. You cool with that?

Your daughter’s being treated like a dog! Marrying fricking 12 year olds and knocking them up at 15-16 years old. Those sick pricks literally will have 1 house (paid for by me/us) and will have 2-3 wives/baby mommas and have 2-3 women that can’t even walk in public without a blanket cover everything but their eyes & are just baby making machines.

Don’t you assholes get it!? At that rate we will have a major problem in our backyard. They take over NYC, that is gonna be a problem.

And lastly/sorry for the digress, but I’ve even heard we are paying their Israeli military members health insurance and other benefits.

But yeah Rand Paul, you scumbag, let’s just keep pushing the finish line further and further, we are not maxed out on our slavery quotas yet. We are legit slaves to the system, modern day slavery in this country. They are charging us interest upon interest and taxes on taxes, when does it end?

And it won’t end until Trump cuts Israel
Off, send that POS Bibi to his maker/Satan & we abolish the Federal Reserve and cancel our debt and tell the Rothschilds to come collect!

We really do need physical showdowns in this country. Rand Paul collecting is paycheck even during shutdowns, how is that even legal!???

OP, Sorry for the rant, but I’ve had it with all this crap. Even when you get SS, it ain’t enough. Watched the elders in my family barely getting by on their SS checks, barely covers a below decent living.
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
19196 posts
Posted on 11/1/25 at 4:36 pm to
The problem with this argument is the govt wastes billions and refuses to clean up these programs.

Try cleaning house first. Then if we just can’t find any money elsewhere then let’s talk about it.
Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
30912 posts
Posted on 11/1/25 at 4:45 pm to
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including what my employer paid


Why should you get what your employer paid in, grifter?
Posted by Armymann50
Playing with my
Member since Sep 2011
22001 posts
Posted on 11/1/25 at 4:52 pm to
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It's my money


No, it really isn't your money.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135669 posts
Posted on 11/1/25 at 4:56 pm to
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No business succession plan? It’s just gonna go away when you do?

He can cash it out or roll it to a succession plan. Regardless, it may indeed just go away when he does.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135669 posts
Posted on 11/1/25 at 4:57 pm to
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No, it really isn't your money.
Yeah, it 100% really is his money.
Posted by nealnan8
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2016
3976 posts
Posted on 11/1/25 at 5:12 pm to
Well, this is the most logical solution, because it' heading off of a cliff. The other solution (and most people on this board will hate this), involves a
means test. So someone who has over $1 million in cash assets, as an example, might have their SS Benefits severely reduced.
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