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Posted on 11/1/25 at 3:01 pm to stout
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Yes it's always been a scam Time to phase it out
Give me my money back, including what my employer paid, with a modest 4% interest and get rid of it.
Posted on 11/1/25 at 3:05 pm to stout
Just pay out what is owed to people and then get rid of it completely.
The biggest savings from raising it will be not paying out all the people who die before then.
The biggest savings from raising it will be not paying out all the people who die before then.
Posted on 11/1/25 at 3:09 pm to BBONDS25
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Fair. And that’s your call. I just don’t see it very often.
It won’t be my choice, it would be theirs.
Posted on 11/1/25 at 3:23 pm to stout
quote:That's misleading. 78.4 (actually 77.5 as of 2022) is life expectancy...at birth. If you take as a given that someone lives to 70, the actuarial tables show something like 85 as their life expectancy from there (84 for men, 86 for women).
The life expectancy for an American today is 78.4 years. So he wants Americans to enjoy only 8 years of peace (if you’re lucky) before you die.
15 years of SS doesn't seem unreasonable to me.
Posted on 11/1/25 at 3:27 pm to stout
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The life expectancy for an American today is 78.4 years
What is it for Americans that live to atleast the age of 18 (working age)?
This post was edited on 11/1/25 at 3:28 pm
Posted on 11/1/25 at 3:41 pm to Pelican fan99
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People can be as mad as they want about this but something has to be done to it
I’m starting to get older and it would impact me. I understand what needs to be done for the future of my children/the country. It has to be done.
Posted on 11/1/25 at 3:44 pm to stout
How else do you expect them to give money to illegals and all the other grifters and bureaucrats that don't contribute to the system or pay taxes. You have to raise the retirement age.
This post was edited on 11/1/25 at 3:50 pm
Posted on 11/1/25 at 3:49 pm to stout
Just have a lump sum option and collect at any age you want. Obviously the longer you pay in the bigger you lump sum would be.
Posted on 11/1/25 at 3:59 pm to Hangover Haven
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It's my money, I worked for it... Welfare recipients get other people's money.
Jesus. Do none of you idiots know how this pyramid works?
Posted on 11/1/25 at 4:02 pm to Evolved Simian
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Jesus. Do none of you idiots know how this pyramid works?
Of course they know how it works. Doesn’t change the fact they put money in. What is your point?
Posted on 11/1/25 at 4:03 pm to stout
Or you could raise the tax at a miniscule rate to maintain benefits.
Posted on 11/1/25 at 4:04 pm to Big Scrub TX
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15 years of SS doesn't seem unreasonable to me.
The concept isn’t the problem.
The math/money is.
You either reduce payments, increase SS taxes or increase retirement age or some combination thereof.
This post was edited on 11/1/25 at 4:05 pm
Posted on 11/1/25 at 4:35 pm to stout
The biggest Ponzi scheme in the history of the world.
They truly hate our guts and they will only change with pushback and eventual brute force from the tax payers.
We are so fricked!
Until I see them drop Israel off our our Tit & protection, I’m out on Trump too.
Although he’s obviously doing some major things to help the country, until we get away from this Israeli control, we are screwed and will never experience our true potential wealth.
We are legit paying to prop up the entire world with all their bullshite tranny and homo movement to weaken the entire world to the core.
We are paying for them to spray the air with a known toxin that has been tested on male frogs that turn them into females.
WTF!!! And all you idiots on this board supporting the globalist regime need to WTFU, this ain’t no game, your selling out our future generations. Quit with the BS & do some research and quit listening to the propaganda & fake news.
This Muslim movement is a clear and present danger in itself & you liberal idiots have no idea what you’re supporting. Any group of people that openly and arrogantly says they are here to take over and “we” as in any American doesn’t assimilate to them, they will kill us.
What part of that you idiots like SFP, PowerlessMan, and all you other cucks don’t understand? You may not see the full takeover in your lifetime, but what a POS to sell your offspring and/or anyone else’s future lineage to deal with that.
Look at Dearborn, Michigan, that’s what their plan is. You cool with that?
Your daughter’s being treated like a dog! Marrying fricking 12 year olds and knocking them up at 15-16 years old. Those sick pricks literally will have 1 house (paid for by me/us) and will have 2-3 wives/baby mommas and have 2-3 women that can’t even walk in public without a blanket cover everything but their eyes & are just baby making machines.
Don’t you assholes get it!? At that rate we will have a major problem in our backyard. They take over NYC, that is gonna be a problem.
And lastly/sorry for the digress, but I’ve even heard we are paying their Israeli military members health insurance and other benefits.
But yeah Rand Paul, you scumbag, let’s just keep pushing the finish line further and further, we are not maxed out on our slavery quotas yet. We are legit slaves to the system, modern day slavery in this country. They are charging us interest upon interest and taxes on taxes, when does it end?
And it won’t end until Trump cuts Israel
Off, send that POS Bibi to his maker/Satan & we abolish the Federal Reserve and cancel our debt and tell the Rothschilds to come collect!
We really do need physical showdowns in this country. Rand Paul collecting is paycheck even during shutdowns, how is that even legal!???
OP, Sorry for the rant, but I’ve had it with all this crap. Even when you get SS, it ain’t enough. Watched the elders in my family barely getting by on their SS checks, barely covers a below decent living.
They truly hate our guts and they will only change with pushback and eventual brute force from the tax payers.
We are so fricked!
Until I see them drop Israel off our our Tit & protection, I’m out on Trump too.
Although he’s obviously doing some major things to help the country, until we get away from this Israeli control, we are screwed and will never experience our true potential wealth.
We are legit paying to prop up the entire world with all their bullshite tranny and homo movement to weaken the entire world to the core.
We are paying for them to spray the air with a known toxin that has been tested on male frogs that turn them into females.
WTF!!! And all you idiots on this board supporting the globalist regime need to WTFU, this ain’t no game, your selling out our future generations. Quit with the BS & do some research and quit listening to the propaganda & fake news.
This Muslim movement is a clear and present danger in itself & you liberal idiots have no idea what you’re supporting. Any group of people that openly and arrogantly says they are here to take over and “we” as in any American doesn’t assimilate to them, they will kill us.
What part of that you idiots like SFP, PowerlessMan, and all you other cucks don’t understand? You may not see the full takeover in your lifetime, but what a POS to sell your offspring and/or anyone else’s future lineage to deal with that.
Look at Dearborn, Michigan, that’s what their plan is. You cool with that?
Your daughter’s being treated like a dog! Marrying fricking 12 year olds and knocking them up at 15-16 years old. Those sick pricks literally will have 1 house (paid for by me/us) and will have 2-3 wives/baby mommas and have 2-3 women that can’t even walk in public without a blanket cover everything but their eyes & are just baby making machines.
Don’t you assholes get it!? At that rate we will have a major problem in our backyard. They take over NYC, that is gonna be a problem.
And lastly/sorry for the digress, but I’ve even heard we are paying their Israeli military members health insurance and other benefits.
But yeah Rand Paul, you scumbag, let’s just keep pushing the finish line further and further, we are not maxed out on our slavery quotas yet. We are legit slaves to the system, modern day slavery in this country. They are charging us interest upon interest and taxes on taxes, when does it end?
And it won’t end until Trump cuts Israel
Off, send that POS Bibi to his maker/Satan & we abolish the Federal Reserve and cancel our debt and tell the Rothschilds to come collect!
We really do need physical showdowns in this country. Rand Paul collecting is paycheck even during shutdowns, how is that even legal!???
OP, Sorry for the rant, but I’ve had it with all this crap. Even when you get SS, it ain’t enough. Watched the elders in my family barely getting by on their SS checks, barely covers a below decent living.
Posted on 11/1/25 at 4:36 pm to stout
The problem with this argument is the govt wastes billions and refuses to clean up these programs.
Try cleaning house first. Then if we just can’t find any money elsewhere then let’s talk about it.
Try cleaning house first. Then if we just can’t find any money elsewhere then let’s talk about it.
Posted on 11/1/25 at 4:45 pm to LSUtoBOOT
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including what my employer paid
Why should you get what your employer paid in, grifter?
Posted on 11/1/25 at 4:52 pm to Hangover Haven
quote:
It's my money
No, it really isn't your money.
Posted on 11/1/25 at 4:56 pm to BBONDS25
quote:He can cash it out or roll it to a succession plan. Regardless, it may indeed just go away when he does.
No business succession plan? It’s just gonna go away when you do?
Posted on 11/1/25 at 4:57 pm to Armymann50
quote:Yeah, it 100% really is his money.
No, it really isn't your money.
Posted on 11/1/25 at 5:12 pm to stout
Well, this is the most logical solution, because it' heading off of a cliff. The other solution (and most people on this board will hate this), involves a
means test. So someone who has over $1 million in cash assets, as an example, might have their SS Benefits severely reduced.
means test. So someone who has over $1 million in cash assets, as an example, might have their SS Benefits severely reduced.
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