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Question: Are you a Christian or are you a Democrat ???
Posted on 5/15/26 at 11:46 am
Posted on 5/15/26 at 11:46 am
During a conversation the other day it occurred to me that the person that I was talking with had moved so far left that she had pretty much trashed her previously held Christian values.
Personally, I find it difficult to understand how the Democrat Party can still attract regular church goers.
My Christian faith will always supersede any political loyalty.
So, what say you ??
Personally, I find it difficult to understand how the Democrat Party can still attract regular church goers.
My Christian faith will always supersede any political loyalty.
So, what say you ??
Posted on 5/15/26 at 11:49 am to Chip82
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So, what say you ??
Depends on how hot she is.
Posted on 5/15/26 at 11:52 am to Chip82
If you're a democrat you can't be Christian. Dems represent everything that is anti Christian. No ifs, ands or buts. If a person supports abortion, they also support cruelty to children. Look up the different kinds of abortion. Chopping a kid up in the womb and sucking the body parts out with a vacuum is the worst kind of offense a human can commit.
Posted on 5/15/26 at 11:57 am to Chip82
As a very conservative Christian, I have to sometimes fight against my sinful flesh in thinking poorly of brothers and sisters who believe so differently than I do on non-salvific issues. This is one of them.
While I personally struggle to see how one can truly be saved and yet reject most core orthodox beliefs about sin, I have to admit that at its core, Christianity is about the historical reality of the incarnation, life, death, and resurrection of Jesus Christ. That means, someone can be truly saved and have their sins atoned for by the blood of Christ and still be deep in sin and have very erroneous doctrine on important matters like homosexuality, transgenderism, and abortion.
What ultimately matters is that someone is trusting in the finished work of Christ alone for the forgiveness of their sins.
But yes, I do struggle to reconcile many a Christian's profession of faith with support for wicked policies that the Democrat party supports, and I would urge all professing Christians to examine their beliefs in light of the Scriptures, and repent of sins like support for abortion.
While I personally struggle to see how one can truly be saved and yet reject most core orthodox beliefs about sin, I have to admit that at its core, Christianity is about the historical reality of the incarnation, life, death, and resurrection of Jesus Christ. That means, someone can be truly saved and have their sins atoned for by the blood of Christ and still be deep in sin and have very erroneous doctrine on important matters like homosexuality, transgenderism, and abortion.
What ultimately matters is that someone is trusting in the finished work of Christ alone for the forgiveness of their sins.
But yes, I do struggle to reconcile many a Christian's profession of faith with support for wicked policies that the Democrat party supports, and I would urge all professing Christians to examine their beliefs in light of the Scriptures, and repent of sins like support for abortion.
Posted on 5/15/26 at 11:57 am to Chip82
Yeah, I suppose the whole supporting abortion up until birth, and then being cool with the mutilation of kids doesn’t really jive all too well with Christian beliefs.
Posted on 5/15/26 at 11:58 am to Chip82
Did your Christian faith explain to you there are creeps on all sides of the political spectrum. Christianity isn't reserved for pious Republicans, because there's no such thing. Look in the mirror before casting stones.
Posted on 5/15/26 at 12:25 pm to Chip82
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Personally, I find it difficult to understand how the Democrat Party can still attract regular church goers.
Hypocrisy and the failure to identify and recognize it. On the part of both the Establishment Uniparty and churchgoers.
Posted on 5/15/26 at 12:28 pm to Chip82
Jesus Christ wasn't a political philosopher. He didn't come to teach us about tax rates, business subsidies, or how much the government should regulate our lives. He didn't lay out a list of rights we have that the government must respect, or tell us how to structure a government. He called us, first as individuals and second as a spiritual body, to live lives of radical holiness and radical love for others.
The difference between believing that certain acts are sinful and believing that those same acts should be illegal should be obvious to everyone. The Bible teaches that drunkenness is sinful, but I don't think it should be a crime to get drunk in the privacy of your own home. This extends to sexual sins as well. It's undoubtedly immoral to cheat on your wife, but we don't view it as a matter of criminal law either.
The fact of the matter is that America has always been a place with many differences of religious opinion, and we've always rejected a theocratic system of relying on politicians to interpret the will of God for us.
Christians can't reasonably expect non-Christians to accept that certain acts are illegal in our society because they're sins according to a religion that they don't follow. Spiritually, a non-Christian doesn't benefit on a spiritual level if he or she is blocked from performing a sinful act by the force of law because that person is already lost and can't earn salvation by committing one fewer sin.
I can see why some Christians feel compelled by their religious beliefs to vote Republican. I can also see why some Christians feel compelled by their religious beliefs to vote Democrat.
Personally, I strongly believe that attempts to brand the GOP as the only party for Christians are a pretty cynical attempt to gain political power, and that a strong association between one party and Christianity in today's hyper-polarized political environment has been and will continue to be damaging to Christianity in America as a whole.
The difference between believing that certain acts are sinful and believing that those same acts should be illegal should be obvious to everyone. The Bible teaches that drunkenness is sinful, but I don't think it should be a crime to get drunk in the privacy of your own home. This extends to sexual sins as well. It's undoubtedly immoral to cheat on your wife, but we don't view it as a matter of criminal law either.
The fact of the matter is that America has always been a place with many differences of religious opinion, and we've always rejected a theocratic system of relying on politicians to interpret the will of God for us.
Christians can't reasonably expect non-Christians to accept that certain acts are illegal in our society because they're sins according to a religion that they don't follow. Spiritually, a non-Christian doesn't benefit on a spiritual level if he or she is blocked from performing a sinful act by the force of law because that person is already lost and can't earn salvation by committing one fewer sin.
I can see why some Christians feel compelled by their religious beliefs to vote Republican. I can also see why some Christians feel compelled by their religious beliefs to vote Democrat.
Personally, I strongly believe that attempts to brand the GOP as the only party for Christians are a pretty cynical attempt to gain political power, and that a strong association between one party and Christianity in today's hyper-polarized political environment has been and will continue to be damaging to Christianity in America as a whole.
This post was edited on 5/15/26 at 12:35 pm
Posted on 5/15/26 at 12:32 pm to OchoDedos
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Did your Christian faith explain to you there are creeps on all sides of the political spectrum. Christianity isn't reserved for pious Republicans, because there's no such thing. Look in the mirror before casting stones.
My christian faith doesn't encourage me to murder an unborn baby.
It doesn't celebrate tranny's or encourage homosexuality.
Posted on 5/15/26 at 12:42 pm to bbvdd
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My christian faith doesn't encourage me to murder an unborn baby.
It doesn't celebrate tranny's or encourage homosexuality.
Good for you. Why do feel the need to be politically proselytizing yourself wrapped in religious beliefs. That's your opinion not the majority of anybody else.
Posted on 5/15/26 at 12:44 pm to Chip82
They profess to be both only proves they are hypocrites.
Posted on 5/15/26 at 12:48 pm to Chuck Barris
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Personally, I strongly believe that attempts to brand the GOP as the only party for Christians are a pretty cynical attempt to gain political power, and that a strong association between one party and Christianity in today's hyper-polarized political environment has been and will continue to be damaging to Christianity in America as a whole.
I agree with your points but I believe you left out one of the biggest differences (to me) between most democrats and most republicans.
Abortion. I don't care what anyone says, it's murder.
Posted on 5/15/26 at 12:49 pm to OchoDedos
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political spectrum.
Part of the political spectrum aligns with Christian values.
And part of the political spectrum aligns with Secular values.
Democrats are currently aligned with policies that overlay the secular.
Posted on 5/15/26 at 12:49 pm to Chip82
Christian first and a conservative Republican second
Posted on 5/15/26 at 12:58 pm to Chip82
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Democrats are currently aligned with policies that overlay the secular.
Where does it say in the Constitution that Political Parties have to be Secular or Non-Secular? Litmus tests are explicitly excluded from every facet of Constitutional Law, making your religious flag waving cheerleading exclusion nonsensical.
This post was edited on 5/15/26 at 1:03 pm
Posted on 5/15/26 at 1:03 pm to OchoDedos
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Good for you. Why do feel the need to be politically proselytizing yourself wrapped in religious beliefs. That's your opinion not the majority of anybody else.
I tell you what. Go to a Democrat national convention, go onstage and pronounce that you are a Christian above all.
Then do the same thing at the RNC.
At one you will be booed. At the other, you will be cheered.
Posted on 5/15/26 at 1:05 pm to kajunman
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If you're a democrat you can't be Christian.
Idk Jesus had pretty liberal beliefs
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