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re: Provide me an African-American view on something
Posted on 6/2/20 at 10:47 pm to RedStickBR
Posted on 6/2/20 at 10:47 pm to RedStickBR
As a black man - seriously you don't have to say African-American - I'll attempt to give some insight here:
Because it happens so often that it's ingrained into the black community as something that is normal and accepted
In a predominantly all black community (the hood) young blacks are raised to hate the police
Fun fact, you will always hear a balck man refer to another black man as "brother" or "black man," but when referencing a white man it is always "white boy." Heaven forbid you ever refer to black male as "boy"
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blacks murdering blacks is something that liberals almost never mention?
Because it happens so often that it's ingrained into the black community as something that is normal and accepted
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why do they matter more when police are doing the killing
In a predominantly all black community (the hood) young blacks are raised to hate the police
Fun fact, you will always hear a balck man refer to another black man as "brother" or "black man," but when referencing a white man it is always "white boy." Heaven forbid you ever refer to black male as "boy"
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Posted on 6/2/20 at 10:56 pm to TigerCruise
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What they want to stop is the racists jokes, the "pearl clutching", the looks they get by white people,
So STOP frickING KILLING PEOPLE
What is so hard to understand about that?
Posted on 6/2/20 at 10:59 pm to TigerCruise
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What they want to stop is the racists jokes
What are 95% of black comedians going to do for jobs when they can no longer joke about race?
Posted on 6/2/20 at 11:02 pm to RedStickBR
They shot and killed a black man over a TV while protesting for the death of a black man. They don't fricking care dude.
Posted on 6/2/20 at 11:08 pm to luckylefty
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Short answer. They get away with it.They get away with constant harassment. Harrassed in front of your kids. On dates. Alone. Driving home alone. And it has been happening all of our lives. Then. You black men get pulled over with white friends. And you then learn there's a difference. White ppl can actually express emotion. Get mad. Black men are targeted. Hoping something sticks. It's a paranoia you cant explain to someone unless he's with you. THis is why white athletes bow. They see it and understand it.
I appreciate this response. As a white guy, I've obviously never experienced this, which is why I asked the genuine question in the first place. This needs to stop, but two things:
(1) Does this happen to all black people or primarily those who tend to be living a lifestyle scripted by so-called "gangsta rappers?"
(2) AAs are right to push back like hell against this. But why isn't there 100x more urgency to stop all the black-on-black butchering as well?
It defies logic:
If A = worthy of outrage, and B is similar but even more prevalent, then B should cause even more outrage.
When you fail to see the outrage for B, it makes you wonder if the outrage behind A is genuine, given the logical inconsistency. Murder is murder.
This post was edited on 6/2/20 at 11:10 pm
Posted on 6/2/20 at 11:10 pm to TigerCruise
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have the same opportunities as everyone else
That is crazy....they have the deck so skewed towards them right now it is crazy. They have access to scholarships galore. They have access to loans I could only wish for. They get preferential hiring and promotions. They have opportunities as everyone else if they just go to school and keep their noses clean.
Posted on 6/2/20 at 11:10 pm to RedStickBR
#freeshit
Posted on 6/2/20 at 11:13 pm to TigerCruise
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The reality is they have to take responsibility for their own communities in the end
They've got that, in spades, they routinely burn their communities to the ground.
Posted on 6/2/20 at 11:17 pm to YeahYeah
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Because it happens so often that it's ingrained into the black community as something that is normal and accepted
This is simply unfathomably sad. And what's even sadder is that white liberals pretend it doesn't happen because they know it wouldn't score well politically. That's no way to prove that "black lives matter" and it frankly eclipses many of the racial causes that are actually noble.
Posted on 6/2/20 at 11:18 pm to Bulldogblitz
The basis for that thought is understandable, but it doesn't necessarily square with the overwhelming belief that it's mostly coordinated out-of-towner antifa operations that has resulted in the destruction.
Posted on 6/2/20 at 11:25 pm to RedStickBR
How do you stop a rhino from charging? Take away it’s American Express card!
That’s about all I have!
That’s about all I have!
Posted on 6/2/20 at 11:32 pm to biglego
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quote: I think maybe more blacks are waking up to the Far Left agenda and how they are being used by the Democratic Party. I was starting to have a real hope for this...but after this past week, nope. Not at all.
It almost as if it were by design... the powers on the left may have just been looking for an inflection point and were delivered it on a platter.
Posted on 6/2/20 at 11:36 pm to RedStickBR
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(1) Does this happen to all black people or primarily those who tend to be living a lifestyle scripted by so-called "gangsta rappers?"
(2) AAs are right to push back like hell against this. But why isn't there 100x more urgency to stop all the black-on-black butchering as well
1. It happens to almost all black men. Do you have any black people you know who could validate it?
2. Are you white? Do you care about white meth heads? Are they part of your community bc of their color?
This post was edited on 6/2/20 at 11:39 pm
Posted on 6/2/20 at 11:47 pm to mahdragonz
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1. It happens to almost all black men. Do you have any black people you know who could validate it?
I’m the one who asked the question. You said it happens to almost all black men. What are you basing that on?
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2. Are you white? Do you care about white meth heads? Are they part of your community bc of their color?
Let me be clear that I don’t think the color of our skin dictates our community. We should all be one community. But the national conversation right now is very much rooted in skin color. It would be impossible to have the conversation we are being asked to have if not making certain generalizations in order to aid the discussion.
Yes, meth is bad, white people who cook it are bad, and we should have a conversation about that commensurate with the threat it poses.
That being said, as a white dude, crystal meth addiction has virtually zero impact on my life. Judging by the daily reports of black on black crime in my community, I’d say this problem is nearly infinitely worse than your straw man.
Posted on 6/2/20 at 11:50 pm to RedStickBR
Its not just about police killing black people. Its about the police being used as population control and the entire judicial system being rigged.
Black people were artificially placed at the bottom of society. The police and the justice system are some of the tools used to make sure they stay there.
Damn near every traffic stop turns into people outside of their vehicles and police searching their cars. They don't even use the drug dogs for fake hits anymore. They just go straight for the "I detect an odor of Marijuana " so they can search without even bringing in the dogs.
The over policing and violations of people's rights are just too much sometimes.
The United States makes up 4% of the world's total population, yet 25% of all the world's prisoners are incarcerated in the States.
Unless you just believe Americans are exponentially more criminal than the rest of the world than there is no way this is the land of the "free".
I just watched a man cuffed and arrested for eating a sandwich on the train platform in the "land of the free".
The real question is why do conservative Whites sit idle while all of our god given rights are eroded more and more every single year?
When those police officers blew away the scared white guy pleading for his life in a hotel hallway in Arizona and left his wife and 2 daughters fatherless there was silence. The cop was acquitted and allowed to go back to work. He eventually retired.
Daniel Shaver crying begging cops not to shoot him. They blow him away anyways.
America is definitely a police state. It may not be as bad as China, but police have found ways to circumvent the constitution and the Supreme Court has upheld that bull shite.
You guys better wake up. When the government comes for you they ain't sending Nancy Pelosi they are sending cops.
The Corona lock down should have shown you that cops will follow orders regardless whether they are lawful or not.
Black people were artificially placed at the bottom of society. The police and the justice system are some of the tools used to make sure they stay there.
Damn near every traffic stop turns into people outside of their vehicles and police searching their cars. They don't even use the drug dogs for fake hits anymore. They just go straight for the "I detect an odor of Marijuana " so they can search without even bringing in the dogs.
The over policing and violations of people's rights are just too much sometimes.
The United States makes up 4% of the world's total population, yet 25% of all the world's prisoners are incarcerated in the States.
Unless you just believe Americans are exponentially more criminal than the rest of the world than there is no way this is the land of the "free".
I just watched a man cuffed and arrested for eating a sandwich on the train platform in the "land of the free".
The real question is why do conservative Whites sit idle while all of our god given rights are eroded more and more every single year?
When those police officers blew away the scared white guy pleading for his life in a hotel hallway in Arizona and left his wife and 2 daughters fatherless there was silence. The cop was acquitted and allowed to go back to work. He eventually retired.
Daniel Shaver crying begging cops not to shoot him. They blow him away anyways.
America is definitely a police state. It may not be as bad as China, but police have found ways to circumvent the constitution and the Supreme Court has upheld that bull shite.
You guys better wake up. When the government comes for you they ain't sending Nancy Pelosi they are sending cops.
The Corona lock down should have shown you that cops will follow orders regardless whether they are lawful or not.
This post was edited on 6/3/20 at 1:41 am
Posted on 6/2/20 at 11:51 pm to RedStickBR
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That being said, as a white dude, crystal meth addiction has virtually zero impact on my life. Judging by the daily reports of black on black crime in my community, I’d say this problem is nearly infinitely worse than your straw man.
Wait...what?
You don't think white meth heads impacts your white life?
But you have a different standard for black people?
Why?
This post was edited on 6/2/20 at 11:53 pm
Posted on 6/2/20 at 11:54 pm to RedStickBR
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But why do they matter more when police are doing the killing as compared to when other blacks are doing the killing in exponentially higher numbers?
I think you could ask several people and get several answers. But I think it boils down to a matter of cognitive dissonance. Black people kill other blacks, sure, but they don’t kill them just because they’re black. Many if not most blacks think police kill black men because they’re black; I think part of it is a power dynamic, where the policeman is sworn to protect and serve and the black criminal is not.
Posted on 6/2/20 at 11:55 pm to BhamDore
Okay, so this is actually an interesting angle as well. But this is, at best, tangential to the grievances being expressed by the rioters. If the recipe calls for 3 parts police brutality against blacks and 1 part income inequality, the issue you’ve raised is maybe an optional garnish. It’s simply not what I (or the rioters) are talking about. It’s a separate discussion. If we need to discuss the police state gone wild, there’s no need to cloak that discussion in racial terms.
Posted on 6/2/20 at 11:55 pm to Tiguar
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No. The beginning of the renaissance of the American black will be the return of the nuclear black family.
Stop subsidizing single motherhood. Stop rewarding it. Start subsidizing low income FAMILIES with a working MAN and a WOMAN. Stop glorifying a destructive lifestyle and culture
I will gladly support a government program literally giving money to families that have a child and at least 1 spouse has full time employment.
No marriage with coresidence, no money check.
I agree with the sentiment. However I think we should make certain provisions. What if the marriage ends in divorce over unreconcilable differences or an abusive situation takes place.
I'm not saying this is the norm. But it is common. There are also cases where the parent simply abandons the family.
I believe we should punish single motherhood provided no other confirmed legal documents show that a marriage license was created and the marriage last at least 4 years.
Posted on 6/3/20 at 12:00 am to mahdragonz
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Wait...what?
You don't think white meth heads impacts your white life?
But you have a different standard for black people?
Why?
Crystal meth has literally never impacted my life.
Black on black crime impacted my life as recently as last week, and I know it likely impacts the lives of blacks in my community much more than it impacts mine.
It’s not a double standard. It’s a complete lack of statistical equivalence.
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