re: Provide me an African-American view on something

Because Police aren't supposed to kill unarmed citizens...

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not just about police killing black people. Its about the police being used as population control and the entire judicial system being rigged.

Black people were artificially placed at the bottom of society. The police and the justice system are some of the tools used to make sure they stay there.

Damn near every traffic stop turns into people outside of their vehicles and police searching their cars. They don't even use the drug dogs for fake hits anymore. They just go straight for the "I detect an odor of Marijuana " so they can search without even bringing in the dogs.

The over policing and violations of people's rights are just too much sometimes.

The United States makes up 4% of the world's total population, yet 25% of all the world's prisoners are incarcerated in the States.


Unless you just believe Americans are exponentially more criminal than the rest of the world than there is no way this is the land of the "free".

I just watched a man cuffed and arrested for eating a sandwich on the train platform in the "land of the free".


The real question is why do conservative Whites sit idle while all of our god given rights are eroded more and more every single year?

When those police officers blew away the scared white guy pleading for his life in a hotel hallway in Arizona and left his wife and 2 daughters fatherless there was silence. The cop was acquitted and allowed to go back to work. He eventually retired.

Daniel Shaver crying begging cops not to shoot him. They blow him away anyways.
America is definitely a police state. It may not be as bad as China, but police have found ways to circumvent the constitution and the Supreme Court has upheld that bull shite.

You guys better wake up. When the government comes for you they ain't sending Nancy Pelosi or they are send cops.

The Corona lock down should have shown you that cops will follow orders regardless whether they are lawful or not.

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BhamDore

Thanks.

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I think you could ask several people and get several answers. But I think it boils down to a matter of cognitive dissonance. Black people kill other blacks, sure, but they don’t kill them just because they’re black. Many if not most blacks think police kill black men because they’re black; I think part of it is a power dynamic, where the policeman is sworn to protect and serve and the black criminal is not.

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You know, this actually makes more sense to me than anything. It’s one thing to get hurt by someone you don’t trust. It’s another thing altogether to be harmed by someone sworn to protect you. I get that.

But (if I’m allowed a “but”), if blacks being treated differently than other races is the issue, then it’s worth noting that the much higher percentage of blacks killing blacks is likewise an instance of blacks being treated differently than other races.

Black lives do matter. But the question is, to who? Apparently they don’t matter very much to a statistically small number of cops. And apparently they don’t matter at all to an overwhelmingly greater number of other blacks.

If we could ask a sort of variant of the Golden Rule, you’d get a very chilling answer:

“What if other people treated you exactly like you treat yourselves?”

It’s almost as if the group most in need of convincing that black lives matter is, well, blacks.

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then it’s worth noting that the much higher percentage of blacks killing blacks is likewise an instance of blacks being treated differently than other races.

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And apparently they don’t matter at all to an overwhelmingly greater number of other blacks.

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~80% of white people are killed by white people, but you wouldn’t say white lives don’t matter to white people

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What are 95% of black comedians going to do for jobs when they can no longer joke about race?

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Honestly I've thought about this dilemma too.

It's a cultural problem. The best explanation is that when black comedians joke about race, it comes off as SELF DEPRECATION because usually they are of that race. Most comedians also know their target audience.

In contrast, many jokes made from other people come off as criticism or insulting. Think of the Michelle Obama jokes on this board as an example. It's approved humor on here because most posters are of the same mindset about it, but it most likely wouldn't be appreciated on even moderate discussion forums.

Context matters. Learning how to read the room is an important life skill just like any other.

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Unless you just believe Americans are exponentially more criminal than the rest of the world

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What if I believe this?

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Let’s play a hypothetical. Your kid comes home from school and says:

A) another kid slapped me in the face and called me a [insert expletive]

B) the teacher slapped me in the face and called me a [insert expletive]

Would you consider one of these more significant to your child personally? Would one of these situations have a bigger effect on the functioning of the classroom?

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This is a hell of a hypothetical, and I get your point, as I’ve expressed a few times in other responses. But there is a flaw in your hypo. Let me rework it for you:

A) In School A, there was one fight last year, instigated by a teacher against a student.

B) In School B, there were 500 fights last year, all instigated by students against other students.

I’d say B has a much greater impact on the ability of the school to function properly. And in terms of statistics, the 500 number is probably way too low. Hell, we see 500 murders in Chicago alone in some years.

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The best explanation is that when black comedians joke about race, it comes off as SELF DEPRECATION because usually they are of that race. Most comedians also know their target audience.

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I agree with this distinction, but I also believe virtually nothing should be off limits in the world of comedy (outside of jokes which could be construed as legitimate threats on another person’s life, i.e. the Kathy Griffin stuff).

More blacks are killed by blacks,more whites are killed by whites,more Mexicans are killed by more Mexicans,in all those cases ,the perpetrator is going to jail...black lives matter,deals with the dynamic of in either of those same race incidents,the cops are the ones doing the killing... black man n black crime or white on white crime, weapons by both are probably in use...blm deals with death if unarmed individuals....you can't compare a 12 year old tamir rice playing on a playground to thugs being killed doing crime

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More blacks are killed by blacks,more whites are killed by whites,more Mexicans are killed by more Mexicans,in all those cases ,the perpetrator is going to jail...black lives matter,deals with the dynamic of in either of those same race incidents,the cops are the ones doing the killing... black man n black crime or white on white crime, weapons by both are probably in use...blm deals with death if unarmed individuals....you can't compare a 12 year old tamir rice playing on a playground to thugs being killed doing crime

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This is an informative viewpoint, too. I agree with you. I still struggle, though, with how much of this is politics vs principle when the alleged principle of the matter doesn’t seem to be equally applied.

I’d wager numerous more completely innocent black people die from instances of black on black crime than innocent people die from instances of white cop on black crime. People don’t always have the best aim ... and much of the crime is completely senseless and not just between rival drug lords.