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re: Pope Denounces ‘Hypocrisy’ of Those Who Criticize LGBT Blessings

Posted on 2/11/24 at 1:33 pm to
Posted by Northshoretiger87
Member since Apr 2016
3707 posts
Posted on 2/11/24 at 1:33 pm to
I’m fine with saying the dude needs to meet his maker.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
49478 posts
Posted on 2/11/24 at 1:35 pm to
Not my Pope.

*Not a fan of the priest they imported from deepest Africa for the local parish either. HIs English is nearly
unintelligible.
This post was edited on 2/11/24 at 1:37 pm
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48425 posts
Posted on 2/11/24 at 1:36 pm to
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Why are heretical policies and positions tolerated of the
"Leader" of the RCC church that lead millions astray?


Be specific in naming the "heretical policies" that you find intolerable.

Bless the Sinner not the Sin is not heretical.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
79757 posts
Posted on 2/11/24 at 1:38 pm to
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Here's the thing though, and this is where Pope Francis really needs to clarify, the priest is not blessing the actions of the businessman. He's blessing the businessman. Is the priest blessing the relationship or is he simply blessing the people in the relationship?


Jesus didn’t tell the woman caught in adultery to just go; he told her to go and sin no more.
Posted by LSUA 75
Colfax,La.
Member since Jan 2019
3707 posts
Posted on 2/11/24 at 1:48 pm to
I was a Catholic for good many years,Catholic schools,altar boy,the whole bit.
Still know good many Catholics,old classmates and relatives.They go to mass every Sunday,go to communion every Sunday and then the vote for Obama,Hillary and Biden.
I’ve asked a few what kind of mental gymnastics they do to call themselves Catholic and vote for politicians that are staunch advocates of abortion,especially late term abortion.
Even the Catholic priest that was head chaplain at hospital I worked at supported O,H,B.

From my experience there are a whole lot of hypocritical Catholics.
Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
7330 posts
Posted on 2/11/24 at 1:48 pm to
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What are they waiting for?


I like my local Priests. The message and culture of our area isn't lost on them.

At my job I like my team lead and several other supervisors at the site level.

It is a common theme the further up you go in an organization, the less they know or care what the people at the local level think or is important to them.

It grinds me that the church allowed children to be abused and they worked so hard to hide that. They put the value of the church above that of the lives of the people who it is supposed to serve. Sound familiar?

Hypocrisy is saying we must protect the unborn and not excommunicate politicians who embrace and promote abortion. He should be ripping into politicians who promote the death of the unborn, clamor for war, oppress their people to where they look to escape their homelands, commit genocide, and a host of other inhumane activities. Yet this pope just can't let the gay stuff be.
Posted by yakster
Member since Mar 2021
1391 posts
Posted on 2/11/24 at 1:54 pm to
So why are you blessing crooked business men? Stop the hypocrisy pope.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
79757 posts
Posted on 2/11/24 at 1:56 pm to
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Hypocrisy is saying we must protect the unborn and not excommunicate politicians who embrace and promote abortion. He should be ripping into politicians who promote the death of the unborn, clamor for war, oppress their people to where they look to escape their homelands, commit genocide, and a host of other inhumane activities. Yet this pope just can't let the gay stuff be.


I’ve been saying from the beginning that a true Vicar of Christ would’ve been attempting to broker some sort of peace between Russia/Ukraine. To me, it’s rather telling that he hasn’t.
Posted by Zarkinletch416
Deep in the Heart of Texas
Member since Jan 2020
8389 posts
Posted on 2/11/24 at 2:00 pm to
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Some of you worship the Catholic church and it's "traditions" more than you worship Jesus Christ.


Wow! Just Wow! As it applies to 'tradition' surprise the Catholic Church is a family. Families gather tradition and pass those traditions on to future generations.

Examples of Catholic tradition? Reflecting on the Lives of the Saints (they were people just like us), and celebrations including families praying the Rosary together. The Rosary being a repetitive pray using biblical excerpts from the.....(wait for it).....The Bible. Another tradition - Lent. We're about to begin the Season of Lent which begins on Ash Wednesday. On Ash Wednesday I will participate in another ancient tradition. I will receive ashes in the form of a Cross on my forehead. On Holy Thursday I will participate in another Catholic tradition - a Holy Hour(s) with Jesus in the garden. I will respond to Our Lord's biblical plea "can you spend one hour with me?"(Matthew 26:40). I will try to console Him as He suffers in the Garden. During that solemn time I will reflect on various scripture passages, especially on our Lord's Passion that follows the next day (Good Friday).

The ashes come from the burned palm branches leftover from Palm Sunday. We waved some palm branches as the Priest Celebrant (acting as Persona Christi) enters the Church for Palm Sunday Holy Mass. In that we wave the palm branches we are replicating the Hosanna Moment when the people welcomed Jesus as he entered Jerusalem prior to beginning His Passion. Without a doubt the Easter Triduum is one of my favorite liturgical celebrations. So on Ash Wednesday I will step up to the altar (as in a Catholic version of the protestant Altar Call)and the minister will recite these words as he/she applies the ashes,"Remember - you are dust and to dust you shall return" - (Genesis 3:19). For me personally, it reminds me that I am old and soon my diseased old body will surely die and overtime return to dust. But my soul will live on for all eternity - Free at last, good God almighty free at last.

Having said that, we should pray for each other. We Protestants and Catholics have more in common, than separates us. Hey, maybe you should consider joining me to receive the ashes on Ash Wednesday?. Trust me it's a powerful moment.

Regardless, I hope you have a peaceful Holy Lent.



This post was edited on 2/11/24 at 4:57 pm
Posted by Lightning
Texas
Member since May 2014
2300 posts
Posted on 2/11/24 at 2:13 pm to
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Impossible to explain:




Not really:


It’s American Sign Language for “I Love You.”

Posted by LSUA 75
Colfax,La.
Member since Jan 2019
3707 posts
Posted on 2/11/24 at 2:22 pm to
This might sound petty to some but one of the things that pissed me off and pushed me out was when the Catholic Church changed the rule on eating meat on Friday.When I was a kid the rule was no meat on Fridays.If you did it was a mortal sin and if you died without going to confession you went straight to hell.

I remember once on a camping trip as a kid I forgot and ate meat,When I realized it I was terrified for several days that I was going to die and go to hell before I could get to a priest to hear my confession.Ruined my whole camping trip.

Then later on they changed the rule.
I related that story to the hypocrite priest at the hospital as 1 reason I ditched the Catholic Church.He just laughed and said no one went to hell for eating meat on Friday.Well,those nuns sure pounded that into our heads in catechism class.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
17762 posts
Posted on 2/11/24 at 2:37 pm to
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Here's the thing though, and this is where Pope Francis really needs to clarify, the priest is not blessing the actions of the businessman. He's blessing the businessman. Is the priest blessing the relationship or is he simply blessing the people in the relationship?



Exactly. What a straw man this Jesuit Pope has built here.

Every time a priest blesses anyone — homosexual, crooked businessman or devout parishioner — that priest is blessing a sinner since we all sin and fall short of the glory of God. Yet blessing a homosexual union is akin to blessing embezzlement.

What a shoddy thinker. It is a embarrassment that this Jesuit Pope is the titular head of a faith tradition that includes St. Thomas Aquinas.

Posted by Flapjacks
Member since Oct 2023
61 posts
Posted on 2/11/24 at 2:43 pm to
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no different than blessing crooked businessmen



Yeah, we don’t want you to do that either bud.
Posted by DesScorp
Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
6536 posts
Posted on 2/11/24 at 2:49 pm to
Antipope
Posted by MemphisGuy
Member since Nov 2023
3274 posts
Posted on 2/11/24 at 2:51 pm to
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Zarkinletch416

Good post. I can respect what you wrote.
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Having said that, we should pray for each other

Agree wholeheartedly.
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We Protestants and Catholics have more in common, than separates us.


True... we worship the same God, believe the Jesus Christ is the Son of God, was crucified and rose again on the third day to save us from our sins... but there are vast differences otherwise.

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Regardless, I hope you have a peaceful holy Lent.


You as well
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112530 posts
Posted on 2/11/24 at 2:53 pm to
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no different than blessing crooked businessmen.


The church didn't bless crooked businessmen back in the day. They were damned to hell unless they confessed and then spent 100 years in purgatory to pay for their sins.
I guess things have changed since I was in catechism class.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
17762 posts
Posted on 2/11/24 at 3:03 pm to
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All things work for the Glory of God and all things will be made right.




I just hope all faithful Catholics — and indeed faithful Christians of all denominations — will join me in saying the student’s prayer to St. Thomas.

It is a prayer intended to bring understanding to those seeking the wisdom of the ages, a prayer to cast light on darkness and a prayer to lend clarity to the confused.

That last category certainly includes this Jesuit Pope.


O Angelic Doctor, St. Thomas, prince of theologians and guide of philosophers, shining ornament of the Christian world and light of the Church, heavenly patron of all Catholic education, who has wisdom without deceit and does impart it without pride, implore for us the Son of God, who is wisdom itself.

May Jesus bless me with a keen understanding, a retentive memory, and the ability to grasp things correctly and fundamentally. Point out the beginning, direct the progress, and aid in the completion of correct thought. Grant me further the talent of being exact in my explanations and the ability to express myself with thoroughness and grace.

That receiving within us the Spirit of wisdom, we may understand what you have taught and imitate what you have done, and that being made partakers of the wisdom and virtue in which the sun, while on earth, did ever shine, that we may at last enjoy with you eternally in heaven their sweetest fruits, praising the divine wisdom through endless ages.

Amen.


Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
3872 posts
Posted on 2/11/24 at 3:06 pm to
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I know many devout Catholics, I am not one, who despise this current pope. Several are seriously considering leaving the Catholic church for an alternative.

Yeah, forget that! This Church founded by Christ does not belong to Jorge Bergolio. We have had bad popes before and the Church will survive him. His time on earth is coming to an end shortly. I am not running. This is my Church. The Catholic Church belongs to it's members.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
50189 posts
Posted on 2/11/24 at 3:09 pm to
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The church didn't bless crooked businessmen back in the day.


Jesus hung out with prostitutes. Jesus didn’t die for our sins to save the nonexistent perfect people of the world. We’re all sinners. Including me and you.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
50189 posts
Posted on 2/11/24 at 3:10 pm to
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know many devout Catholics, I am not one, who despise this current pope.
Several are seriously considering leaving the Catholic church


A devout Catholic doesn’t stop believing in Catholic doctrine because of a pope. Sounds like something a cafeteria Catholic would do.
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