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optics of no witnesses

Posted on 1/31/20 at 6:01 pm
Posted by NorthTiger
Upper 40
Member since Jan 2004
3839 posts
Posted on 1/31/20 at 6:01 pm
come election you have your always Trumpers and your Never Trumpers. Why won’t the inbetweeners buy into “no witnesses = no trial”
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69213 posts
Posted on 1/31/20 at 6:02 pm to
There were 17 witnesses
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
39990 posts
Posted on 1/31/20 at 6:02 pm to
TRUMP was allowed no witnesses in The House. They then had a party line partisan impeachment vote.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56263 posts
Posted on 1/31/20 at 6:02 pm to
The argument isn't that there was a trial.

The argument is that there is no need for a trial. And, that there was no basis for a trial. And, that this entire effort was politically motivated.
Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
12818 posts
Posted on 1/31/20 at 6:03 pm to
Why do we need witnesses to tell us about a transcript that we can read ourselves?
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
29846 posts
Posted on 1/31/20 at 6:04 pm to
Because they're not as dumb as the ones trying to sell that garbage believes them to be.
Posted by timdonaghyswhistle
Member since Jul 2018
16262 posts
Posted on 1/31/20 at 6:04 pm to
I think the voters will be thrilled that they, not politicians, get to choose to fire the President if they so desire.
Posted by LuckyTiger
Someone's Alter
Member since Dec 2008
45089 posts
Posted on 1/31/20 at 6:04 pm to
First, there have been witnesses;

The democrats are always going to cry regardless of more witnesses or no witnesses, they were always going to question validity once acquittal occurred;

This is seen as a political impeachment; no one will be influenced one way or the other.
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
15319 posts
Posted on 1/31/20 at 6:05 pm to
18. Remember they wouldn’t release any transcripts from the 18th
Posted by Uncs
Member since Aug 2008
3080 posts
Posted on 1/31/20 at 6:05 pm to
1. Because they Had 17 witnesses in the hose and still couldn’t convince

2. Bolton is just trying to sell books. If it’s not about money for Bolton. Why not go on a major network

3. When they Steal it from Bernie for a second time and put up another white male. Party of diversity out the window. Party of fairness out the window, Party for America out the Window

Trump in a landslide.
Posted by TigerBait1971
PTC GA
Member since Oct 2014
14865 posts
Posted on 1/31/20 at 6:05 pm to
Because frick your trial.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71281 posts
Posted on 1/31/20 at 6:05 pm to
I'm am independent. While I wanted witnesses, mostly because I want to see DC burn, I thought it was a stupid, dumb, and moronic attempt to get rid of a president. I don't like Trump, don't like his positions on a large portion of issues, but it looked like a partisian hack job.

To top it off, the DNC is giving me nobody to vote for. Who the hell is excited about Biden or Bloomberg? Warren is an awful human being, and Bernie is literally a socialist who is also getting screwed by the DNC.

Mostly I just look at our choices and die inside. Why don't quality people want to be the president?
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
33932 posts
Posted on 1/31/20 at 6:06 pm to
quote:

optics of no witnesses

How about the optics of a secret trial in the basement of the Capitol? We don't do stupid shite like that in the US. Schiff should be tarred and feathered.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
77829 posts
Posted on 1/31/20 at 6:07 pm to
18 witnesses
Posted by jrodLSUke
Premium
Member since Jan 2011
22028 posts
Posted on 1/31/20 at 6:08 pm to
If Dems allowed Trump no witnesses in the House, why would Reps let Dems have witnesses in the Senate?
Posted by Mrtommorrow1987
Twilight Zone
Member since Feb 2008
13119 posts
Posted on 1/31/20 at 6:08 pm to
The dude running the country is doing a pretty good job. Have you looked at your 401k lately?
Posted by Texas Yarddog
Member since Apr 2018
2594 posts
Posted on 1/31/20 at 6:08 pm to
That's the line that the Dems and their media mouthpieces will be chanting. Some moderate LIVs may be swayed, but most won't because they already don't trust the media. There is a lot of time between now and then for Trump to hammer the liars on the news networks.
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
39123 posts
Posted on 1/31/20 at 6:08 pm to
The Senate has the exact same evidence the House did.
Posted by bird35
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
12118 posts
Posted on 1/31/20 at 6:08 pm to
18 witnesses and a transcript of the phone calls.

And The House had the opportunity to call hundreds or thousands more witnesses if they wanted to.

The process was not unfair to the Democrats.
Posted by Uncs
Member since Aug 2008
3080 posts
Posted on 1/31/20 at 6:09 pm to
quote:

Why don't quality people want to be the president?



Look at what they are doing to Trump!!! That’s why
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