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re: Official US/Israel vs Iran war thread
Posted on 5/28/26 at 10:13 am to BayouBengal51
Posted on 5/28/26 at 10:13 am to BayouBengal51
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 10:15 am to BayouBengal51
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Ali Bagheri, deputy secretary of Iran's Supreme National Security Council:
"The U.S. cannot be trusted, breaking commitments is part of this country's nature."
"Iran's illegally frozen assets must be released without any conditions or restrictions."
"Ending the war on all fronts, including Lebanon, is a fundamental principle of any negotiation or agreement."
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 10:18 am to BayouBengal51
Posted on 5/28/26 at 10:28 am to OccamsStubble
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I never suggested that it was. If we go to war, we should pay for it.
Sure. I'm only pointing out that we out ourselves in this position of continued wasteful spending.
Posted on 5/28/26 at 10:31 am to BayouBengal51
Posted on 5/28/26 at 10:41 am to BayouBengal51
Ya, I saw the post about a deal and didn't even change my blood pressure.
I think Trump has become content just laying a modern day siege which is interesting in its own right. Don't think we've seen something like this in a long time.
We'll see I suppose.
I think Trump has become content just laying a modern day siege which is interesting in its own right. Don't think we've seen something like this in a long time.
We'll see I suppose.
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 10:56 am to BayouBengal51
Posted on 5/28/26 at 11:00 am to BayouBengal51
Sending Witkoff and Kushner constantly to deal with Araghchi on the issues means nothing will ever get done. It's obvious that Araghchi either has no authority to negotiate any deal or, what is more likely is that he is the tool that the Islamic Republic is using to keep drawing this scene out further and further. Why Trump keeps putting up with the charade is beyond me. He obviously (hopefully) has something up his sleeve.
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Iran Supreme Leader’s representative to the Revolutionary Guards said the Islamic Republic would never establish friendly relations with the United States and Israel, adding that negotiations did not mean trust or friendship with what he called the enemy.
“The Islamic Republic will never have a relationship of friendship with America and Israel,” Abdollah Haji Sadeghi said on Thursday, according to Iranian media.
Posted on 5/28/26 at 11:10 am to BayouBengal51
To be fair to Iran, that makes sense after we bombed them (deservedly so) 
We aren't going to be "friends" until someone else is in charge there.
We aren't going to be "friends" until someone else is in charge there.
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 11:10 am to BayouBengal51
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Why Trump keeps putting up with the charade is beyond me. He obviously (hopefully) has something up his sleeve.
Because it prevents Iran from firing missiles and drones all day long at anything within reach.
The IRGC is never going to surrender they are just buying time in power.
Goal them: live
Goal us: destroy them without direct military intervention in the form of air strikes.
Think about it. We spent billions destroying the conventional military. That goal has been accomplished. But they can still shoot missiles.
So we can destroy them(missiles) as they dig them out and fire them or we can have a cease fire and do it without many expensive missiles.
Posted on 5/28/26 at 11:11 am to BayouBengal51
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Sending Witkoff and Kushner constantly to deal with Araghchi on the issues means nothing will ever get done.
Before "talks" even began — back when there were just rumors of negotiations — Iranian leadership publicly stated they did not want to deal with Witkoff and Kushner. That's how Vance got brought directly into the mess.
Hell, that all may even date back to June of last year prior to our obliteration of their nuclear capabilities.
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 11:13 am to Victor R Franko
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Article doesn't mention Jack shite about why or situation around his leaving, of course. Not any mention of future planes either, just the usual he was a great fellow and performed great, Goodbye.
I doubt it will be announced but this is probably how it happened.
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This was a classic canary trap. You give different staff different details and wait to see who leaks what to whom.
They caught the leakers. Multiple sleepers just exposed themselves
Posted on 5/28/26 at 11:20 am to Teddy Ruxpin
think Trump has become content just laying a modern day siege which is interesting in its own right. Don't think we've seen something like this in a long time.
Definitely seems like the waiting for Iran to have money and resource issues, not able to pay for armies or militias etc. is the new current plan. All the stalling is on our part too.
My one hesitancy on that is we didn’t do enough to destroy their land routes during the bombing campaign. So was this a less planned shift in tactics based upon something else that didn’t happen?
Definitely seems like the waiting for Iran to have money and resource issues, not able to pay for armies or militias etc. is the new current plan. All the stalling is on our part too.
My one hesitancy on that is we didn’t do enough to destroy their land routes during the bombing campaign. So was this a less planned shift in tactics based upon something else that didn’t happen?
Posted on 5/28/26 at 11:34 am to BayouBengal51
A deal to extend ceasefire nothing else!
Clown show!
Clown show!
Posted on 5/28/26 at 11:37 am to demtigers73
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A deal to extend ceasefire nothing else!
That's exactly what caused all the hullabaloo last week. Everyone was talking about "nuclear this" and "dust that" when the "deal" that was being reported only mentioned nuclear in the sense that it would be discussed at a later date.
Posted on 5/28/26 at 11:47 am to demtigers73
My take is Trump just wants to lower gas prices and put the war on ice until the midterms. I expect we will only know his real Iran plans after those.
Posted on 5/28/26 at 11:51 am to TroutGuy
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Official US/Israel vs Iran war threadby TroutGuyMy take is Trump just wants to lower gas prices and put the war on ice until the midterms. I expect we will only know his real Iran plans after those.
I think it’s a balance.
How to achieve what we want to achieve but with some specific limits on consequences (us troop lives, oil price, attacks on regional partners) Maybe it works maybe it doesn’t.
Posted on 5/28/26 at 12:03 pm to TroutGuy
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My take is Trump just wants to lower gas prices and put the war on ice until the midterms. I expect we will only know his real Iran plans after those.
Problem is, 60 more days of the SOH being closed and world oil inventories will be seriously depleted. This is when it's likely you'll see a huge price spike and a real chance that the 10 year note yields will start approaching 4.75%.
Just don't think time is going to be on our side much longer.
Posted on 5/28/26 at 12:04 pm to BayouBengal51
Posted on 5/28/26 at 12:04 pm to hawgfaninc
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