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re: Official US/Israel vs Iran war thread

Posted on 5/28/26 at 8:34 am to
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 8:34 am to
Posted by Reagan80
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 8:41 am to
Trump screwed the pooch and can't get out of a war we cannot win. This will end in our humiliation because we cannot beat Iran. It's time to declare "victory" and get out. There will be no negotiation out of this mess. The Iranians have no incentive to give Trump anything. They have taken our best shot and we haven't accomplished much.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 8:43 am to
The War Powers Act concern is extremely overblown at this point.
Posted by Trevaylin
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 8:47 am to
Reading comprehension levels are low here. I will try to rephrase.

say a US missile cost 1.2 million to build and another .1 million to deliver to target for total of 1.3 million.

Now if the targeting is for the 35 foot offshore boat with 3 300 hp Yamaha 's modified to carry 4 depth chargers, total value 350,000, that's is a losing return unless the two boat captain lives is worth something to Iran.

Now if instead that 1.3 million dollar missile were used to knock out the generating station that supplies power to the boat shed and surrounding town with Iran's repair cost approaching 10million that would be useful work.

another analogy, do not use a sidewinder missile to shoot a Houthi goat cart
Posted by Victor R Franko
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 8:48 am to
That's what I think too, but Penrod thinks otherwise. I'm asking to see if he knows something, or just talking out his arse. I suspect I know the answer, but want to give him a chance to back up or at least explain his words and or thoughts.
Posted by Pragmatist2025
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 8:48 am to
quote:

The War Powers Act concern is extremely overblown at this point.
It doesn’t really matter at this point. Every President uses it to the point that Congress has no input anyway.
Posted by mikie421
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 8:52 am to
quote:

say a US missile cost 1.2 million to build and another .1 million to deliver to target for total of 1.3 million. Now if the targeting is for the 35 foot offshore boat with 3 300 hp Yamaha 's modified to carry 4 depth chargers, total value 350,000, that's is a losing return unless the two boat captain lives is worth something to Iran. Now if instead that 1.3 million dollar missile were used to knock out the generating station that supplies power to the boat shed and surrounding town with Iran's repair cost approaching 10million that would be useful work. another analogy, do not use a sidewinder missile to shoot a Houthi goat cart



You have to add in the amount of damage the small boat could inflict for a true analysis.


So if the boat can take out a tanker with 1 billion in oil on it, the 1.3 million missile used to take out the hazard is justified.
Posted by Trevaylin
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 9:01 am to
A-10 do it cheaper....
Posted by Bunk Moreland
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 9:26 am to
Posted by BayouBengal51
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 9:41 am to
quote:

U.S. and Iran reach a deal but...


Posted by TulsaSooner78
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 9:41 am to
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U.S. and Iran reach deal but need Trump's final approval.


Trump needs Bibi's approval before he can give his approval.

Regardless, I don't believe this story.
Posted by omegaman66
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 9:50 am to
quote:

You have to add in the amount of damage the small boat could inflict for a true analysis.


So if the boat can take out a tanker with 1 billion in oil on it, the 1.3 million missile used to take out the hazard is justified.


You also need to factor in a nuke not going off.
Posted by LARancher1991
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 9:55 am to
The bombing campaign was far from our best shot . The mistake was not truly taking our best shot, stopping, and continuing to grant extensions when negotiations repeatedly fail.
This post was edited on 5/28/26 at 10:29 am
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 10:03 am to
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Now, i24NEWS says that Mojtaba Khamenei did not approve the agreement, and that this is one of the reasons President Trump has not yet given final approval. According to the report, while there may be understandings between negotiators on both sides, Iran’s top leadership the real decision-makers has still not said "yes."

Believe what you feel to believe.

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U.S. and Iranian negotiators have agreed on a 60-day memorandum to extend the ceasefire and open talks on Iran’s nuclear program, but President Trump has not yet given final approval, Axios reports, citing two U.S. officials.

The draft deal would guarantee unrestricted shipping through the Strait of Hormuz, lift the U.S. naval blockade in stages, and open talks on Iran’s highly enriched uranium, enrichment activity, sanctions relief and frozen funds.
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 10:06 am to
Posted by BayouBengal51
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 10:12 am to
Posted by OldManRiver
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 10:12 am to
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U.S. and Iranian negotiators have agreed on a 60-day memorandum to extend the ceasefire and open talks on Iran’s nuclear program

I think it's plainly obvious that the US definitely does not want to restart a bombing campaign of any kind.

I have no idea why that is, insert your favorite conspiracy theory here, but Trump is going to drag this out however long it takes without starting the beatings back up.
Posted by BayouBengal51
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 10:13 am to
Posted by BayouBengal51
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 10:15 am to
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Ali Bagheri, deputy secretary of Iran's Supreme National Security Council:

"The U.S. cannot be trusted, breaking commitments is part of this country's nature."

"Iran's illegally frozen assets must be released without any conditions or restrictions."

"Ending the war on all fronts, including Lebanon, is a fundamental principle of any negotiation or agreement."
This post was edited on 5/28/26 at 10:16 am
Posted by BayouBengal51
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 10:18 am to
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