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re: Official US/Israel vs Iran war thread
Posted on 5/28/26 at 8:14 am to hawgfaninc
Posted on 5/28/26 at 8:14 am to hawgfaninc
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The @USTreasury continues our Economic Fury campaign against the Iranian regime.
Their troops are not getting paid, the police are not reporting for work, and Kharg Island is shut down. The Iranian economy and currency are in free fall.
Iran’s Persian Gulf Strait Authority (PGSA) is a joke, and today Treasury has sanctioned it. We have warned any corporate or state entities against paying tolls or hiding them as aid payments.
Forming a Wall of Steel, the U.S. Naval Blockade has ensured a record low amount of Iranian crude on the water. We will also be shutting down both Iranian airlines’ access to landing spots, refueling, and ticket sales.
Only a satisfactory outcome in negotiations will end the downward spiral.
Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent smacking them down.
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 8:29 am to TulsaSooner78
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?I understand the frustration of my dear compatriots with the ceasefire and negotiations
?But Trump and Netanyahu certainly realized certain things after 40 days of bombing the regime
?As long as the IRGC and Basij forces control Iran's streets with DShK machine guns and Kalashnikovs
?Bombing alone is just beating water in a mortar
?Even if an illusory agreement is reached and the flames of the current war are extinguished
?Arming the people of Iran and more precise and effective operations will replace widespread bombings on the agenda of America and Israel
?Our real work has just begun and we must prepare for face-to-face combat with the Islamic Republic
?The final blow will not be struck by America nor by Israel
?The final blow will be struck by us, the great nation of Iran
Posted on 5/28/26 at 8:31 am to Penrod
quote:Can you elaborate on this with dates and laws? I've been under the impression that the Wars Powers act clock was reset long ago. Currently sitting on 0 days as operation Epic Fury started on Feb. 28th and concluded on May 5th, 66 days.
It’s common knowledge why. Because the ceasefire resets the War Powers Act clock.
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Key Provisions and Requirements The resolution mandates that the president notify Congress within 48 hours of deploying troops into hostilities or situations where imminent involvement is clearly indicated. It strictly limits military engagement to 60 days, with an additional 30-day withdrawal period, unless Congress provides specific statutory authorization or declares war.
Does this mean that 90 days from Feb. 28th, the WPA clock reset has occurred and new clock on May 29th? May 29th would be 91 days from Feb. 28th.
What are you talking about?
Posted on 5/28/26 at 8:34 am to hawgfaninc
Posted on 5/28/26 at 8:41 am to TulsaSooner78
Trump screwed the pooch and can't get out of a war we cannot win. This will end in our humiliation because we cannot beat Iran. It's time to declare "victory" and get out. There will be no negotiation out of this mess. The Iranians have no incentive to give Trump anything. They have taken our best shot and we haven't accomplished much.
Posted on 5/28/26 at 8:43 am to Victor R Franko
The War Powers Act concern is extremely overblown at this point.
Posted on 5/28/26 at 8:47 am to Powerman
Reading comprehension levels are low here. I will try to rephrase.
say a US missile cost 1.2 million to build and another .1 million to deliver to target for total of 1.3 million.
Now if the targeting is for the 35 foot offshore boat with 3 300 hp Yamaha 's modified to carry 4 depth chargers, total value 350,000, that's is a losing return unless the two boat captain lives is worth something to Iran.
Now if instead that 1.3 million dollar missile were used to knock out the generating station that supplies power to the boat shed and surrounding town with Iran's repair cost approaching 10million that would be useful work.
another analogy, do not use a sidewinder missile to shoot a Houthi goat cart
say a US missile cost 1.2 million to build and another .1 million to deliver to target for total of 1.3 million.
Now if the targeting is for the 35 foot offshore boat with 3 300 hp Yamaha 's modified to carry 4 depth chargers, total value 350,000, that's is a losing return unless the two boat captain lives is worth something to Iran.
Now if instead that 1.3 million dollar missile were used to knock out the generating station that supplies power to the boat shed and surrounding town with Iran's repair cost approaching 10million that would be useful work.
another analogy, do not use a sidewinder missile to shoot a Houthi goat cart
Posted on 5/28/26 at 8:48 am to Teddy Ruxpin
That's what I think too, but Penrod thinks otherwise. I'm asking to see if he knows something, or just talking out his arse. I suspect I know the answer, but want to give him a chance to back up or at least explain his words and or thoughts.
Posted on 5/28/26 at 8:48 am to Teddy Ruxpin
quote:It doesn’t really matter at this point. Every President uses it to the point that Congress has no input anyway.
The War Powers Act concern is extremely overblown at this point.
Posted on 5/28/26 at 8:52 am to Trevaylin
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say a US missile cost 1.2 million to build and another .1 million to deliver to target for total of 1.3 million. Now if the targeting is for the 35 foot offshore boat with 3 300 hp Yamaha 's modified to carry 4 depth chargers, total value 350,000, that's is a losing return unless the two boat captain lives is worth something to Iran. Now if instead that 1.3 million dollar missile were used to knock out the generating station that supplies power to the boat shed and surrounding town with Iran's repair cost approaching 10million that would be useful work. another analogy, do not use a sidewinder missile to shoot a Houthi goat cart
You have to add in the amount of damage the small boat could inflict for a true analysis.
So if the boat can take out a tanker with 1 billion in oil on it, the 1.3 million missile used to take out the hazard is justified.
Posted on 5/28/26 at 9:01 am to mikie421
A-10 do it cheaper....
Posted on 5/28/26 at 9:26 am to Trevaylin
Posted on 5/28/26 at 9:41 am to Bunk Moreland
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U.S. and Iran reach a deal but...
Posted on 5/28/26 at 9:41 am to Bunk Moreland
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U.S. and Iran reach deal but need Trump's final approval.
Trump needs Bibi's approval before he can give his approval.
Regardless, I don't believe this story.
Posted on 5/28/26 at 9:50 am to mikie421
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You have to add in the amount of damage the small boat could inflict for a true analysis.
So if the boat can take out a tanker with 1 billion in oil on it, the 1.3 million missile used to take out the hazard is justified.
You also need to factor in a nuke not going off.
Posted on 5/28/26 at 9:55 am to Reagan80
The bombing campaign was far from our best shot 
. The mistake was not truly taking our best shot, stopping, and continuing to grant extensions when negotiations repeatedly fail.
. The mistake was not truly taking our best shot, stopping, and continuing to grant extensions when negotiations repeatedly fail.This post was edited on 5/28/26 at 10:29 am
Posted on 5/28/26 at 10:03 am to hawgfaninc
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Now, i24NEWS says that Mojtaba Khamenei did not approve the agreement, and that this is one of the reasons President Trump has not yet given final approval. According to the report, while there may be understandings between negotiators on both sides, Iran’s top leadership the real decision-makers has still not said "yes."
Believe what you feel to believe.
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U.S. and Iranian negotiators have agreed on a 60-day memorandum to extend the ceasefire and open talks on Iran’s nuclear program, but President Trump has not yet given final approval, Axios reports, citing two U.S. officials.
The draft deal would guarantee unrestricted shipping through the Strait of Hormuz, lift the U.S. naval blockade in stages, and open talks on Iran’s highly enriched uranium, enrichment activity, sanctions relief and frozen funds.
Posted on 5/28/26 at 10:06 am to hawgfaninc
Posted on 5/28/26 at 10:12 am to hawgfaninc
Posted on 5/28/26 at 10:12 am to hawgfaninc
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U.S. and Iranian negotiators have agreed on a 60-day memorandum to extend the ceasefire and open talks on Iran’s nuclear program
I think it's plainly obvious that the US definitely does not want to restart a bombing campaign of any kind.
I have no idea why that is, insert your favorite conspiracy theory here, but Trump is going to drag this out however long it takes without starting the beatings back up.
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