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re: Official US/Israel vs Iran war thread

Posted on 5/9/26 at 8:13 am to
Posted by TroutGuy
Member since Mar 2026
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Posted on 5/9/26 at 8:13 am to
We need to realize we're in a war and to treat this like any other war we've been in our nation's history. Which is to say, to accept that wars take time to win and require endurance. And not constantly asking your enemy "hey, here's yet another cease fire extension, are you ready to negotiate NOW?" "No? No worries- I know your leadership is divided, here's another cease fire while you figure things out." Doing that just gives the hardliners encouragement and makes them think that we are weak and unable to accept a little economic strain. And that if they just hold out a while longer we will quit.
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Posted by themunch
in motion
Member since Jan 2007
72874 posts
Posted on 5/9/26 at 8:14 am to
Summer of Heat
Posted by Kat Kat
Member since Aug 2017
236 posts
Posted on 5/9/26 at 8:15 am to
Hit the electrical substations and high voltage transmission towers and leave the electrical plants intact. That way power can be restored quickly after IRGC removed. By the way. you need helicopters to string the high voltage lines between the towers.
Posted by TroutGuy
Member since Mar 2026
412 posts
Posted on 5/9/26 at 8:18 am to
Israel tried that earlier in the war by dropping graphite bombs on power lines and they had the lights back on within half a day. Not worth the cost and risk to the pilots to do that.
Posted by Victor R Franko
Member since Dec 2021
4738 posts
Posted on 5/9/26 at 8:36 am to
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Hit the electrical substations

I bet it'd take years to replace those high voltage transformer that would be destroyed. Those don't grow on trees and usually require year or more of a pre-purchase package on projects that require them. With all the data centers being built across the world I bet there's a long order list.

Maybe somebody would give up their equipment for Iran?
Posted by TulsaSooner78
Member since Aug 2025
3365 posts
Posted on 5/9/26 at 8:52 am to
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Not sure how blowing up the power will kill the IRGC but I guess Israel and our allies know more than me.

Seems like that would just make life miserable for the citizens. Seems like that would just make the humanitarian crisis dire when millions of people have not drinking water.... which was already and issue in Tehran before the war started.


This statement makes it sound like Israel thinks that we should take direction from them:

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Israel believes no deal will be made with Iran and has informed the US that any return to fighting must include the destruction of Iran's entire energy infrastructure in an estimated 24 hours.


Who is calling the shots? Us or Israel?
Posted by bigjoe1
Member since Jan 2024
2090 posts
Posted on 5/9/26 at 9:01 am to
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srael believes no deal will be made with Iran and has informed the US that any return to fighting must include the destruction of Iran's entire energy infrastructure in an estimated 24 hours.


I think Israel is right. Iran is just stalling hoping that Trump goes TACO.
This needs to end . Start turning out the lights. Let Iran know the most in demand occupation for the next 10 years will be a candle maker.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
27590 posts
Posted on 5/9/26 at 9:11 am to
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Historical daily high temperature for Al-Jubail Saudi on May 30 is 109 degrees F. Around July 1 it hits 113 F and the humidity goes up really bad. Not a nice place to be for about 3 months. Air conditioning is critical.


Better not be sick or elderly.
Posted by Pragmatist2025
Member since Jun 2025
1438 posts
Posted on 5/9/26 at 9:13 am to
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Start turning out the lights. Let Iran know the most in demand occupation for the next 10 years will be a candle maker.
Destroying the energy grid would make the most in demand occupation to be grave digger.
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
5893 posts
Posted on 5/9/26 at 9:17 am to
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Who is calling the shots? Us or Israel?


Who do you believe is calling the shots?
Posted by lsuconnman
Baton rouge
Member since Feb 2007
5706 posts
Posted on 5/9/26 at 9:29 am to
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The US Defense Department is declining to comment on a possible recent strike on Kharg Island, Iran’s main oil export terminal, reports The Associated Press news agency.


Call it shilling Iranian propaganda if you’d like, but it’s pretty fascinating to see the non-us satellite images that are starting to pop-up.

There’s already little good information available. Imagine how much worse it would be if we could only see what the State Department publishes.
Posted by BayouBengal51
Forest Hill, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2006
11955 posts
Posted on 5/9/26 at 9:30 am to
Another deadline has passed and no reply from the Iranians on the framework proposal. For the love of God, lets just get this over now.

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Posted by BayouBengal51
Forest Hill, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2006
11955 posts
Posted on 5/9/26 at 9:31 am to
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3 large US hits on Iran crude carriers spotted TODAY burning in E Jask Bay at

25.6139, 57.9483

Suezmax burning bad, firefighting boat near smoking good VLCC & fuel leaking from smoldering VLCC.

Right in front of IRGC naval base.
Posted by BayouBengal51
Forest Hill, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2006
11955 posts
Posted on 5/9/26 at 9:39 am to
Well this will be interesting if they try to sever those cables.

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NEW: Iran is preparing to assert full sovereign control over the seven undersea internet cables passing through the Strait of Hormuz, with foreign firms required to obtain permits, pay transit fees, and operate under Iranian law, per Fars.

The cables carry 15-20% of global internet and financial data traffic linking Europe, the Gulf, and Asia. Cable management and maintenance would be exclusively assigned to Iranian companies under the proposal.

The IRGC previously warned of cutting the submarine cables passing through Hormuz, which Gulf states depend on for over 90% of their internet, banking, and cloud services. Iran relies on them for less than 40%, with the rest routed overland through Turkey.
Posted by subMOA
Komatipoort
Member since Jan 2010
2071 posts
Posted on 5/9/26 at 9:51 am to
And they are gonna do this how? With hydraulic chainsaws strapped to dolphins?
Posted by BayouBengal51
Forest Hill, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2006
11955 posts
Posted on 5/9/26 at 9:55 am to
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And they are gonna do this how? With hydraulic chainsaws strapped to dolphins?


They will have to retrain their suicide dolphin fleet since we sank all their ships.
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
6167 posts
Posted on 5/9/26 at 9:56 am to
This is why you ignore and keep walking past the homeless guy who calls you a “f$&:ing B!tch”

Sure, it be nice to knock him down. But you have much, much more to lose.

Just leave the guy to his insanity and go home to your big beautiful house, your beautiful wife, and your disappointing kids.
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
5893 posts
Posted on 5/9/26 at 10:08 am to
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This is why you ignore and keep walking past the homeless guy who calls you a “f$&:ing B!tch”


That's fine if the homeless guy is a harmless drunk. But what if he's arming himself to the teeth with assistance from a much bigger and richer bully, recruiting and supplying violent gangs to invade surrounding neighborhoods, threatening to kill you and amassing materials toward that goal, and threatening to block traffic through Main street if you do anything about it?

If you and your local authorities ignore troublemakers for long enough, watch them grow and spread with every passing year, eventually you'll wind up with a real threat that can't be easily fixed.
Posted by Tigerswillprevail
Member since Nov 2011
3074 posts
Posted on 5/9/26 at 10:09 am to
I think the US and Israel need to get back to killing the IRGC command structure while maintaining the blockade.

Blowing up electrical or industrial will hurt citizens more in the long run.

Put pressure directly where it needs to be. Do or die.
Posted by Scorpio58
Da Bayou
Member since Oct 2020
718 posts
Posted on 5/9/26 at 10:10 am to
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Another deadline has passed and no reply from the Iranians on the framework proposal. For the love of God, lets just get this over now.


The IRGC are wiping their asses with "The Art of The Deal". They do not respect Trump or his deal making. These people have everything to lose and nothing to gain by agreeing to the concessions that the U.S. are asking for.
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