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re: Official US/Israel vs Iran war thread

Posted on 5/9/26 at 10:08 am to
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
5231 posts
Posted on 5/9/26 at 10:08 am to
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This is why you ignore and keep walking past the homeless guy who calls you a “f$&:ing B!tch”


That's fine if the homeless guy is a harmless drunk. But what if he's arming himself to the teeth with assistance from a much bigger and richer bully, recruiting and supplying violent gangs to invade surrounding neighborhoods, threatening to kill you and amassing materials toward that goal, and threatening to block traffic through Main street if you do anything about it?

If you and your local authorities ignore troublemakers for long enough, watch them grow and spread with every passing year, eventually you'll wind up with a real threat that can't be easily fixed.
Posted by Tigerswillprevail
Member since Nov 2011
3053 posts
Posted on 5/9/26 at 10:09 am to
I think the US and Israel need to get back to killing the IRGC command structure while maintaining the blockade.

Blowing up electrical or industrial will hurt citizens more in the long run.

Put pressure directly where it needs to be. Do or die.
Posted by Scorpio58
Da Bayou
Member since Oct 2020
713 posts
Posted on 5/9/26 at 10:10 am to
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Another deadline has passed and no reply from the Iranians on the framework proposal. For the love of God, lets just get this over now.


The IRGC are wiping their asses with "The Art of The Deal". They do not respect Trump or his deal making. These people have everything to lose and nothing to gain by agreeing to the concessions that the U.S. are asking for.
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa-Here to Serve
Member since Aug 2012
17107 posts
Posted on 5/9/26 at 10:12 am to
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Hit the electrical substations and high voltage transmission towers and leave the electrical plants intact. That way power can be restored quickly after IRGC removed. By the way. you need helicopters to string the high voltage lines between the towers.


Just take out the high voltage transmission lines that leave the power plants. A few A10's can bbrrrrrrrrrrrttttttt anyone attempting to repair. When regime falls allow the repair.

No need to destroy plants or substations, those could take months to years to replace.
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
24844 posts
Posted on 5/9/26 at 10:23 am to
Agree with this.
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
24844 posts
Posted on 5/9/26 at 10:24 am to
Plus drop leaflets letting people know whoever attempts repair will be in mortal danger
Posted by TulsaSooner78
Member since Aug 2025
2743 posts
Posted on 5/9/26 at 10:35 am to
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Who do you believe is calling the shots?


Israel thinks that they are.

I think Trump will continue to do what he wants to do, which is work on a deal.

Trump is scheduled to be in China late next week. I doubt he'll give up on negotiations before that visit is over.
Posted by TulsaSooner78
Member since Aug 2025
2743 posts
Posted on 5/9/26 at 10:40 am to
quote:

I think the US and Israel need to get back to killing the IRGC command structure while maintaining the blockade.

Blowing up electrical or industrial will hurt citizens more in the long run.

Put pressure directly where it needs to be. Do or die.


Agree.

But Israel has directed that destroying Iran's infrastructure is a must have for restarting attacks.

Will Trump bow to Israel's wishes?
Posted by moontigr
Dark Side of the Moon
Member since Nov 2020
7560 posts
Posted on 5/9/26 at 10:41 am to
Trump is trying his best to wait out the 60 days but I don't know if that's possible. By doing so he comes across as weak.
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
5231 posts
Posted on 5/9/26 at 10:50 am to
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I think Trump will continue to do what he wants to do, which is work on a deal.


We'll see. Trump says a lot of things, but I don't believe he's a gullible person, especially considering he's working with much more information than what's publicly known. The propagandists are doing what they always do: Trump is weak, Iran is strong. The only certain outcome is that they will call it a failure when all is said and done.
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
5231 posts
Posted on 5/9/26 at 10:54 am to
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But Israel has directed that destroying Iran's infrastructure is a must have for restarting attacks.

Will Trump bow to Israel's wishes?


Who said that?
Posted by TulsaSooner78
Member since Aug 2025
2743 posts
Posted on 5/9/26 at 11:01 am to
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Who said that?


Originally posted in this thread by BayouBengal51 at 12:24 am.

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Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
5231 posts
Posted on 5/9/26 at 11:19 am to
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Israel believes no deal will be made with Iran and has informed the US that any return to fighting must include the destruction of Iran's entire energy infrastructure in an estimated 24 hours. Several Arab


So it's not an actual quote. I wouldn't be surprised if Israel actually believes that a deal is unlikely. I wouldn't even be surprised if they want to hit some energy infrastructure, or even if they do hit some. I would be surprised if they "informed" the US that something "must" happen. That sounds like someone taking liberties with the facts because it suits their purposes.
Posted by Usmc
Member since Oct 2024
485 posts
Posted on 5/9/26 at 11:23 am to
Thats Israel just stating common sense. No reason to start striking if we dont make it hurt. Turning the lights off should have always been done early on.
In truth it should have been the first thing we hit after the decapitation strike and hitting the air defenses.
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
13205 posts
Posted on 5/9/26 at 11:29 am to
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Who do you believe is calling the shots?


Israel thinks that they are.

And yet:
quote:

"The IDF is ready both defensively and offensively and the targets have been marked," Katz said in a video statement.

"We are awaiting a green light from the United States, first and foremost to complete the elimination of the Khamenei dynasty...and additionally to return Iran to the Dark Age and the Stone Age by destroying key energy and electricity facilities and dismantling its national economic infrastructure," he added.

Been waiting for the green light for a few weeks...but they are totally calling the shots.

Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
5231 posts
Posted on 5/9/26 at 11:35 am to
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Turning the lights off should have always been done early on.
In truth it should have been the first thing we hit after the decapitation strike and hitting the air defenses.


Tehran metro area has a population of over 15 million people. How many do you think would die if we "turned off the lights"? It would probably be equivalent to dropping a small nuclear bomb, maybe even a large bomb depending on how many could make their way to a safe haven. If you knocked out power to the entire country, 90 million people would be thrown into complete chaos and the death toll would be staggering. I believe and hope we have better alternatives.
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Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
22731 posts
Posted on 5/9/26 at 11:41 am to
lol what in the frick are you talking about a nuclear bomb would kill anything in a 3mi radius with a fireball, and people have been living with out power for thousands of years and it worked out.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
150118 posts
Posted on 5/9/26 at 11:44 am to
To add, would make building back incredibly difficult. Would literally be starting over from square one
Posted by BayouBengal51
Forest Hill, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2006
9590 posts
Posted on 5/9/26 at 11:47 am to
Looks like the bombing of the IRGC naval assets has begun again this morning.

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Translated from Persian
Audience message: Today is Saturday

Hello Bandar Abbas, just now at 20:02 what a terrifying sound came, the ground shook heavily
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
27153 posts
Posted on 5/9/26 at 11:53 am to
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lol what in the frick are you talking about a nuclear bomb would kill anything in a 3mi radius with a fireball, and people have been living with out power for thousands of years and it worked out.


To live they must eat. Feeding millions of people just in Tehran would soon be nearly impossible.
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