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re: Official US/Israel vs Iran war thread

Posted on 6/12/26 at 12:56 pm to
Posted by BayouBengal51
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Posted on 6/12/26 at 12:56 pm to
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BREAKING: Iran says talks have now "completely stalled" due to Trump's positions and actions, saying that as long as Trump does not accept all of Iran's demands in the draft, the 60-day negotiation period has no chance of beginning and Iran won't sign, per a source close to Iran's Ghalibaf.

Vance's new statements say the deal involves "no cash" and "no funds released for signing," while Iran's draft requires the US to release $24 billion in frozen funds and pay Iran $300 billion in war reparations before Iran signs anything.

There clearly isn't an agreement.

Posted by Iron Lion
Romulus
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 6/12/26 at 12:58 pm to
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no, not at all. Why can't one be pissed about both?
That's not how this board works anymore. You have to support everything the administration is doing or you're a filthy liberal Kamala voter.
Posted by Tigerdad2001
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Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 6/12/26 at 1:00 pm to
Pretty simple - If it don't apply, let it fly!
Posted by sms151t
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Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 6/12/26 at 1:06 pm to
Has the US or anyone started their daily flybys accidentally discharging extra weight they don't need, which causes explosions?
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 6/12/26 at 1:06 pm to
double post my bad
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Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 6/12/26 at 1:42 pm to
So dumb giving them legitimacy through negotiations, I am done with it.
Posted by Cajunlostincali
Honkyville
Member since Sep 2018
598 posts
Posted on 6/12/26 at 1:42 pm to
Worth mentioning

Price of oil right now, is $84.88 a barrel

So is it possible that what Iran can't see is that we are escorting oil tankers through the strait, at night, while they are blind and keeping this operation going while everyone pays attention to truth social?

We control the strait, folks. That's what's going on. And there's not a fkn thing Iran can do about it.
This post was edited on 6/12/26 at 1:43 pm
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 6/12/26 at 1:54 pm to
We arent even negotiating the issues. We are simply negotiating whether or not we will pay them before the negotiations actually start

Things are going well
Posted by BayouBengal51
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Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 6/12/26 at 2:02 pm to
If true, holy shite...

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Posted by BayouBengal51
Forest Hill, Louisiana
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Posted on 6/12/26 at 2:05 pm to
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 6/12/26 at 2:15 pm to
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 6/12/26 at 2:22 pm to
This is happening because UAE is obviously weak so they are just betting on Iran over us now.

Before they were solely behind us.

With how we have handled things now those beholden to us are shifting back to Iran.

This is terrible and could have been avoided if we didn't look so damn weak continually trying to make deals with a regime who continues to laugh and pull the rug
Posted by BayouBengal51
Forest Hill, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 6/12/26 at 2:33 pm to
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This is terrible and could have been avoided if we didn't look so damn weak continually trying to make deals with a regime who continues to laugh and pull the rug


Hit the nail on the head. Trump may have a plan, but no one else knows what it is. If you have the UAE flying pallets of cash into Iran like they did the the other day, then you have a huge hole bypassing the sanctions and blockade. This is a consequence of keeping everyone in the dark while he tries for whatever his end goal is.

Now you have a possible black money tunnel setup between the UAE and Iran that helps fund their operations and keep them afloat. This is why none of his strategy makes sense to everyone on the outside. It's perceived as weakness, and in the muslim world if they think you are weak, they are going to exploit you in every way possible. If they think they have the upper hand they will become more dangerous.

This is something The West has never come to full terms with in regards to the Islamic world. It's not just a military and financial battle. It is a ideological battle as well. And that is the part the west always forgets when dealing with these savages.

This post was edited on 6/12/26 at 2:34 pm
Posted by AndyCBR
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 6/12/26 at 2:53 pm to
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This is terrible and could have been avoided if we didn't look so damn weak continually trying to make deals with a regime who continues to laugh and pull the rug


Everybody was united against Iran at one time.

Then we lost access to some allies airspace due to the Project Freedom debacle.

Now it appears UAE is cutting their own deals with Iran directly.

There are consequences to the seemingly unending back and forth and bluster from Trump and Iran.

It does not seem this is the road to success.
Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 6/12/26 at 2:54 pm to
I will never support another war in my life because they are a huge waste of time because we aren’t mentally capable of finishing the job. Our military strategy has turned into the easiest thing in the world to play defense against.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
20131 posts
Posted on 6/12/26 at 2:54 pm to
Exactly

The only thing those people understand is force. When we showed force look at how so many of them fell in-line lock step behind us. Even when Iran bombed them they never wavered.

Then we wavered so many times I can't even count and now they don't believe in us anymore and believe in them.. and will help them.

That TACO stuff started off as nonsense but Trump made it reality and we look weak, confused and dumb as a country because of it
Posted by TroutGuy
Member since Mar 2026
412 posts
Posted on 6/12/26 at 3:02 pm to
If this is true then Iran has clearly won the war. Losers don't get paid 10 billion. Depressing.
Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
10452 posts
Posted on 6/12/26 at 3:03 pm to
The worst part of losing this war is Iran comes out in a stronger position than they were before.

This is the biggest geopolitical train-wreck of any of our recent wars. At least Iraq and Afghanistan were severely weakened.
This post was edited on 6/12/26 at 3:04 pm
Posted by Finnish
Member since Nov 2021
856 posts
Posted on 6/12/26 at 3:04 pm to
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If true, holy shite...


Qatar did the same. Notice they haven’t been bombed during the last several rounds. These Gulf countries are just paying their ransom to not be bombed.
Posted by PaulDrake
L.A. & Bayou Pa Pon
Member since Feb 2023
960 posts
Posted on 6/12/26 at 3:04 pm to
Has Iran or proxies attacked anyone since Trump announced this latest deal to be signed?

It seems it would be a significant change in the pattern if they actually 100% quit all attacks.




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