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re: Official US/Israel vs Iran war thread
Posted on 6/12/26 at 10:42 am to TroutGuy
Posted on 6/12/26 at 10:42 am to TroutGuy
There is no agreement with the Islamic Republic that is worth the paper it is written on or the bandwidth needed to send it.
Regime change is the only thing that will actually work.
Taking Kharg Island or the islands up at the top of the Strait would give the IRGC a major loss of face. Holding it until there is regime change would have an effect.
Regime change is the only thing that will actually work.
Taking Kharg Island or the islands up at the top of the Strait would give the IRGC a major loss of face. Holding it until there is regime change would have an effect.
This post was edited on 6/12/26 at 10:43 am
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Posted on 6/12/26 at 10:47 am to idlewatcher
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Are there any Trump supporters that are happy with this "progress"? We were the bad guys in this thread 1-2 months ago, now it appears everyone is pissed at Mr. President.
His messaging has been absolutely atrocious.
I'm not happy or unhappy. I agree with the premise that this is a war with global implications and, more importantly, is a matter of US national security. It's a war that the US has dominated so far, including the blockade. "Epic Fury" has further damaged Iran's nuclear ambition and their ability to project power. If the administration decides it needs to be a war of gradual attrition at present, why should I second guess that decision? I definitely have no expectation that I will be informed about the rationale for that decision, or otherwise given advance notice of future plans, via "messaging" or any other form of communication.
The fact that some people, like you, are impatient, or have their own ideas about how our goals should be accomplished, has no impact on my opinion. Many of them have as little information as I have, and they should also have no expectation of being informed about future plans. Many others never have and never will support anything Trump does, which means their rhetoric has no correlation to the success or failure of anything that Trump does.
This post was edited on 6/12/26 at 11:45 am
Posted on 6/12/26 at 10:56 am to wdhalgren
and don't forget,
the wells are pumping,
and storage is gonna reach critical mass
that is the breaking point, cave in and agree,
or have your only source of income for a decade ended
the wells are pumping,
and storage is gonna reach critical mass
that is the breaking point, cave in and agree,
or have your only source of income for a decade ended
Posted on 6/12/26 at 10:57 am to LARancher1991
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I'm giving it about 5 hours before there's a tweet about launching strikes and taking Kharg Island again. Then another 4 hours after that their will be a tweet cancelling the strikes and saying a deal is close.
He will wait until after the market close, then retract his statement early on Monday morning.
Posted on 6/12/26 at 10:59 am to Fuzzy Dunlop
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Trump: "Very dishonorable people to deal with. With them, there is no such thing as dealing in good faith. AMAZING!"
He's just now figuring that out?
Posted on 6/12/26 at 11:01 am to wfallstiger
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cannot imagine being a member of his cabinet. -- would be an alcoholic by now
Posted on 6/12/26 at 11:14 am to TulsaSooner78
Trump has looked weaker than Carter these past two months. From "Epic Fury" to "Epic P***y". Iran is running rings around us in these "negotiations." Should have kept bombing them every day until there was a signed deal, or more realistically, until enough IRGC had been wiped out that moderates could have the upper hand in Iran. We are objectively worse off than before this war started and Trump has wasted an enormous amount of political capital.
Posted on 6/12/26 at 11:39 am to GeneralLee
2nd Trump term has been a joke. 1+ billion dollars PER DAY for this war.
They are wasting $50 million + of taxpayer money on changing the DoD's name to Department of War. Not what I voted for at all. fricking frauds.
They are wasting $50 million + of taxpayer money on changing the DoD's name to Department of War. Not what I voted for at all. fricking frauds.
Posted on 6/12/26 at 11:39 am to GeneralLee
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Trump has looked weaker than Carter these past two months.
Nah. Carter was and is still the hand wringing champion!
Posted on 6/12/26 at 11:50 am to Funky Tide 8
I don't think I've ever seen so many crying little bitches in one place. Looks like a FB group.
Posted on 6/12/26 at 11:50 am to Auburn1968
Trump has been using his statements to affect the price of oil and gas. Some people aren't intellgent enough to realize that. Trump doesn't trust Iran. He knows they will not a bide by any agreement. He knows that some time in the near furure he will have to blast them to hell. Most people want him to finish Iran off now, However, he has his reasons.
Posted on 6/12/26 at 11:59 am to Spaceman Spiff
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I don't think I've ever seen so many crying little bitches in one place. Looks like a FB group.
You seem delusional.
Posted on 6/12/26 at 12:00 pm to Goforit
Ah yes he’s playing 12D chess and not actually getting played nor looking weak.
Posted on 6/12/26 at 12:01 pm to Diego Ricardo
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Amid ongoing intense mediation efforts by Pakistan, we are fully aware of incessant misinformation campaign being waged by those who want to sabotage the peace deal. Setting aside the noise, we can confirm that a final, agreed upon text of the peace deal has been reached and Pakistan is now working closely with both sides to finalize the next steps. Peace has never been this close as it is now.
Posted on 6/12/26 at 12:04 pm to Auburn1968
quote:They purposely decentralized their power structure to make this idea a whack-a-mole adventure.
Regime change is the only thing that will actually work.
Posted on 6/12/26 at 12:26 pm to Pragmatist2025
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They purposely decentralized their power structure to make this idea a whack-a-mole adventure.
That’s why the win scenario is so troubling. You’ve gotta shake the whole etch-a-sketch and start over.
Posted on 6/12/26 at 12:31 pm to Funky Tide 8
So many whining bout the cost of this, but were perfectly fine with trans body mutilations and all the other wastes. This needed to happen. Iran was getting pretty powerful (Dominating that area) and imagine how much stronger they would be left unfettered. Also, there would never be a good time for this so hopefully this crap ends up well so our children and grandchildren don't have to deal with it.
Posted on 6/12/26 at 12:42 pm to Tigerdad2001
It's not going to end well. We are capitulating and things will go back to the way they were before. All the taxpayer dollars spent on this war with nothing to show for it.
Posted on 6/12/26 at 12:45 pm to Chasin The Tiger
CNBC reporting a "Senior Administration official is 80-85% confident U.S. will sign agreement with Iran. Even though we are confident, we are not quite at the finish line yet."
Posted on 6/12/26 at 12:47 pm to Tigerdad2001
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So many whining bout the cost of this, but were perfectly fine with trans body mutilations and all the other wastes.
no, not at all. Why can't one be pissed about both? 
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