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re: NYT: Hollywood’s Message to Red States: Our Movies Are for You

Posted on 7/28/24 at 9:15 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 7/28/24 at 9:15 am to
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shut up pinhead. come on man. what happened to you?


I bet a woman is involved. Watching his transformation has been interesting.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477254 posts
Posted on 7/28/24 at 9:16 am to
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Watching his transformation has been interesting.

Supporting capitalism and the free market and smaller government has been me since 2005. Nothing has changed.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 7/28/24 at 9:16 am to
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. The free market population on here has shifted to Trump's Marxist economic politics


This is so dishonest.

I dont think you even know how dishonest you are.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
46873 posts
Posted on 7/28/24 at 9:17 am to
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but the Disneys, Netflix, Apple, etc that make up a chunk of the entertainment monopolies will keep their foot on the pedal, regardless of how much they lose.
This is just silly.

Disney does not have infinite money. They can't keep losing hundreds of millions every year. Deadpool 3 is going to make them face reality.
Why is this silly? You think they are purely profit-driven? If they were, they would have woken up long ago after so many flops that have lost them hundreds of millions of dollars.

They will use the money from Deadpool and Wolverine and their other pre-woke hits to continue to fund their pet project movies that will continue to flop because of the ideology of those who make the decisions at the company.
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
19587 posts
Posted on 7/28/24 at 9:17 am to
No one believes you, pinhead. You're 400,000+ posts reveal who you are.
This post was edited on 7/28/24 at 9:19 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477254 posts
Posted on 7/28/24 at 9:18 am to
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Why is this silly? You think they are purely profit-driven? I

They will run out of money if they don't get that way.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 7/28/24 at 9:18 am to
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No one believes you,


Its almost like watching someone descend into madness.
Posted by Logician
Grinning Colonizer
Member since Jul 2013
4953 posts
Posted on 7/28/24 at 9:19 am to
Yes, I would absolutely agree they are feeling the pinch and are now making movies again that they know will turn a profit.

That does not mean the industry is shifting right. When the prestigious awards start getting doled out to “conservative” movies or even these summer blockbusters they’re making right now for profit, then we can say something is shifting.

They look down their nose at these kinds of movies and the people that pay to see them. You’re silly for thinking the culture of Hollywood is changing.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477254 posts
Posted on 7/28/24 at 9:19 am to
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This is so dishonest.

Rog, you make literally the same arguments about lower level manufacturing and tariffs.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 7/28/24 at 9:19 am to
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You’re silly for thinking the culture of Hollywood is changing.


Youre being kind.
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
19587 posts
Posted on 7/28/24 at 9:22 am to
Agreed. Their goal is to change minds and they drive towards that as their ultimate goal. It's not about making money.
They will eradicate conservative and independent thought from America or die trying. I'm all for the latter.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477254 posts
Posted on 7/28/24 at 9:24 am to
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That does not mean the industry is shifting right.

The culture is going to swing right for a bit, and content will follow (at least being non-Leftist. Twisters wasn't MAGA or anything it just wasn't woke).

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When the prestigious awards start getting doled out to “conservative” movies

Will be extremely rare just due to the content.

White bread, plain, non-offensive output isn't likely to win much in terms of artistic award (and that's not a recent thing). The only genre I can even think of that can do this is historical set pieces, which, funny enough, the Oscars love (which in turn devalues them as some signal of quality). These aren't often "conservative" though, just not really of high artistic merit.

Conservatism and valued art have never really been concepts that mix and have a large overlap.

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They look down their nose at these kinds of movies and the people that pay to see them.

Are we talking about money makers or artistic output?

The money maker has not often "looked down" at audiences (for reasons stated in OP).

Artistic output? Will look down on something as art is meant to be a critique of something.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 7/28/24 at 9:24 am to
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Rog, you make literally the same arguments


Wrong. My arguments are not as basic, generalized as yours.

Youre a stat hound incapable of separating the fringe from the majority.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70823 posts
Posted on 7/28/24 at 9:24 am to
This is just more propaganda pushing from SFP. For example Disney has been saying things like the OPs headline for almost 4 years while their content continually gets more and more Woke with every release.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 7/28/24 at 9:26 am to
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This is just more propaganda pushing from SFP.


Hes wishcasting.

Some chick got into his head. He's turned into a basic bitch.
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
20011 posts
Posted on 7/28/24 at 9:28 am to
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It's an example of how culture shifts back and forth (but in an advanced society, the net it always a slight move to the left).
until it shifts so far left it becomes incapable of advancement






Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
64370 posts
Posted on 7/28/24 at 9:31 am to


Hollywood absolutely despises red states and lol @ the idea that movies simply without LGBTQ scenes and unrealistic female gender swaps are "red state" fodder.


Posted by tigafan4life
Member since Dec 2006
50990 posts
Posted on 7/28/24 at 9:33 am to
It was still entertaining. And it was nice to go watch a movie without any message to it. That was my whole point.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 7/28/24 at 9:34 am to
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Hollywood absolutely despises red states


Which is why I always laughed at Southern States trying to foster a movie industry.

Posted by ironwood
Member since Aug 2021
333 posts
Posted on 7/28/24 at 9:35 am to
Don't like the propaganda both overt and subtle but, that aside, the ability to create a good film has atrophied. It'd be cool if someone developed a streaming service, without the woke or censors, that could take all the stuff that will come out with the new tools available. I don't like AI but it will make a one person production possible and open it to people who haven't melted into the borg if liberal arts education.
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