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NYC subway rider that killed someone in self defense has charges dropped
Posted on 6/28/23 at 8:24 pm
Posted on 6/28/23 at 8:24 pm
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Good news and a rare act of sanity out of NYC. Not sure why this guy is rightfully exonerated while Daniel Penny is still facing life in prison.
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The Big Apple straphanger charged with stabbing a rowdy ex-con to death on a Brooklyn J train was found to have acted in self-defense — leading to his manslaughter case being dismissed Wednesday, The Post has learned.
A grand jury declined to indict 20-year-old Jordan Williams, who had been charged with manslaughter and criminal possession of a weapon in the June 13 melee that left Devictor Ouedraogo dead.
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“Our office conducted an impartial and thorough investigation of this tragic case, which included review of multiple videos and interviews with all available witnesses, and that evidence was fairly presented to a grand jury. Today, the charges against Jordan Williams have been dismissed,” a spokesman for District Attorney Eric Gonzalez said in a statement.
“Under New York law, a person is justified in using deadly physical force when they reasonably believe it is necessary to use such force to defend themselves or others from imminent use of deadly or unlawful physical force.”
Good news and a rare act of sanity out of NYC. Not sure why this guy is rightfully exonerated while Daniel Penny is still facing life in prison.
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Posted on 6/28/23 at 8:27 pm to THRILLHO
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Not sure why this guy is rightfully exonerated while Daniel Penny is still facing life in prison.
I do
Posted on 6/28/23 at 8:27 pm to THRILLHO
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Not sure why this guy is rightfully exonerated while Daniel Penny is still facing life in prison.
Yeah you are.
Posted on 6/28/23 at 8:28 pm to THRILLHO
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Not sure why this guy is rightfully exonerated while Daniel Penny is still facing life in prison.
Do you really not know why? Or just don't want to say why?
Posted on 6/28/23 at 8:32 pm to BengalOnTheBay
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Do you really not know why?
Posted on 6/28/23 at 8:32 pm to THRILLHO
If only there were some photo evidence to guide us in this thought experiment.
Posted on 6/28/23 at 8:37 pm to THRILLHO
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Not sure why this guy is rightfully exonerated while Daniel Penny is still facing life in prison.
Imagine if the races were reversed. Also notice the wording "a rowdy ex-con". If I remember in the Perry case the guy he was charged for murdering was some kind of special Michael Jackson impersonator.
Posted on 6/28/23 at 8:38 pm to THRILLHO
TrannyHank gonna be pissed at this news
Posted on 6/28/23 at 8:38 pm to THRILLHO
This case was objectively “worse” than Penny and he doesn’t get charged. Too funny.
Posted on 6/28/23 at 8:50 pm to THRILLHO
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Not sure why this guy is rightfully exonerated while Daniel Penny is still facing life in prison.
#sarcasm
Posted on 6/28/23 at 8:51 pm to THRILLHO
But, but, our resident expert lawyer PedoHank assured me this man would be charged and convicted.
Posted on 6/28/23 at 8:52 pm to THRILLHO
This was definitely in immediate self-defense. Whether Penny acted in self defense is yet to be decided.
This post was edited on 6/28/23 at 8:52 pm
Posted on 6/28/23 at 8:53 pm to THRILLHO
Posted on 6/28/23 at 9:52 pm to jessecraig
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But, but, our resident expert lawyer PedoHank assured me this man would be charged and convicted.
Goes without saying but he is seldom correct on his takes.
Posted on 6/28/23 at 10:53 pm to THRILLHO
Because it's mainly white people who are targeted for defending themselves.
That young man is lucky to be black.. otherwise, life in prison would be a very real possibility for him.
I wish our justice system wasn't so biased. Neither of those young men should've been charged.
That young man is lucky to be black.. otherwise, life in prison would be a very real possibility for him.
I wish our justice system wasn't so biased. Neither of those young men should've been charged.
Posted on 6/28/23 at 11:16 pm to Plx1776
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Because it's mainly white people who are targeted for defending themselves.
That young man is lucky to be black.. otherwise, life in prison would be a very real possibility for him.
I wish our justice system wasn't so biased. Neither of those young men should've been charged.
Mr. Perry deserved to be charged due to his generational white privilege and military background.
He's a threat to leftist democracy and POC.
Just ask a dem, The NYDA or FJB
Posted on 6/29/23 at 7:31 am to thebigmuffaletta
quote:Not at all. As usual, you are confusing an evaluation of the applicable statute with the result that I would subjectively LIKE to see.
Hank gonna be pissed at this news
There was never any question in my mind that he was de facto engaged in the defense of others, and (as I said when he was arrested), "a prosecutor would have been quite justified in declining to file charges" against either him OR Penny. It was a case where "prosecutorial discretion," unburdened by political considerations, would probably have NOT given rise to the prosecutor seeking an indictment.
As the justification statute in NY is written, this gentleman had potential problems if the case went before a petit jury (absent jury nullification), due to the statutory definitions of "unlawful physical force" and "deadly physical force." My interpretation of the statute is unchanged
Fortunately, the grand jury declined to indict him, so he will not have to face a petit jury. Morally, I see this as the proper result in this case. Statutorily, I see some jury nullification from the grand jury here, but this is one of those cases where jury nullification seems justified. The prosecutor exercised his discretion and filed marginal charges, and the grand jury exercised the discretion to "no bill" the case.
This post was edited on 6/29/23 at 7:58 am
Posted on 6/29/23 at 7:38 am to Fun Bunch
Both of these young men should be thanked for what they did rather than arrested and 1 of them having to go to court to defend himself.
The young black male actually stabbed the attacker 5 times, I have no issue with what he did, and Penny held the attacker in a choke hold.
The young black male will not go to court and Penny the white male is going to court. It is amazing that they are carrying out this double standard right in front of our eyes and they know they will get away with it.
The young black male actually stabbed the attacker 5 times, I have no issue with what he did, and Penny held the attacker in a choke hold.
The young black male will not go to court and Penny the white male is going to court. It is amazing that they are carrying out this double standard right in front of our eyes and they know they will get away with it.
Posted on 6/29/23 at 7:43 am to THRILLHO
"Good news and a rare act of sanity out of NYC. Not sure why this guy is rightfully exonerated while Daniel Penny is still facing life in prison."
I'm pretty sure you do.
I'm pretty sure you do.
Posted on 6/29/23 at 7:48 am to THRILLHO
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This post was edited on 8/6/23 at 7:29 am
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